Dazzy Vance vs. Fred Waters — Career Comparison

Dazzy Vance
Lost GenerationIowaThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaBrooklyn DodgersNational LeagueHall of FameStarting PitcherMVP
Fred Waters
Greatest GenerationMississippiThrows LeftBats LeftNorth AmericaPittsburgh PiratesNational LeagueRelief Pitcher

Dazzy Vance built a career as a starting pitcher and Fred Waters as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Fred Waters posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 2.89 and WHIP 1.571 compared to 3.24 and 1.230 for Dazzy Vance. By the career numbers, Fred Waters had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Dazzy Vance and Fred Waters

Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
16
16
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
2
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
442
1.34
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
25
4.02
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
347
1.05
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.8
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
197
0.6
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.32
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
140
0.42
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.32
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
58.46
58.46
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
50
50
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
78.51
78.51
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
20
20
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
216
0.66
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.16
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
29
0.09
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
11
0.03
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
1068
3.24
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
18
2.89
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.24
3.24
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.89
2.89
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.07
3.07
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.52
4.52
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.13
3.13
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.2
5.2
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.245
0.245
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.256
0.256
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8900
27
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
168
27
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2966.2
9
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
56
9
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2809
8.52
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
55
8.84
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8.52
8.52
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
8.84
8.84
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
132
0.4
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
4
0.64
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.4
0.4
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.64
0.64
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.3
0.3
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.16
0.16
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
840
2.55
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
32
5.14
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.16
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.55
2.55
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.14
5.14
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2045
6.2
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
14
2.25
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
6.2
6.2
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.25
2.25
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.63
4.63
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.56
0.56
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.973
0.973
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.821
0.821
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
37
0.11
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
0.16
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
77
0.23
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.16
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.01
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
12369
37.52
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
248
39.86
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
53
0.16
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
8
1.29
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
1246
3.78
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
20
3.21
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.78
3.78
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.21
3.21
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.23
1.23
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.554
1.554
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
11452
34.74
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
215
34.55
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.82
2.82
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.8
0.8
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.289
0.289
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.259
0.259
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
37.52
37.52
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
39.86
39.86

Fielding Stats for Dazzy Vance and Fred Waters

Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
16
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
2
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
442
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
25
4.02
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
0.8
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
168
27
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
56
9
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
126
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.32
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
570
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
0.64
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
18
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
714
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
6
0.96
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
696
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
6
0.96
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
97.48
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1.575
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.24
0.24
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
20
20
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
29
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Fred Waters
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Dazzy Vance and Fred Waters

Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
16
16
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
2
2
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
442
238.49
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PAverified
25
714.29
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
1112
600
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
21
600
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
971
523.92
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PAverified
21
600
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.15
0.15
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0.048
0.048
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.47
0.47
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0.191
0.191
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
146
78.78
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
1
28.57
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
115
62.05
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
23
12.41
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
1
0.54
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
28.57
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
7
3.78
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
31
16.73
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
28.57
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0.212
0.212
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.007
0.007
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.048
0.048
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
47.63
25.7
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0.17
4.72
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
192
103.6
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
3
85.71
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
232
125.18
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
1
28.57
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.22
0.22
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0.048
0.048
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.198
0.198
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0.143
0.143
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.417
0.417
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0.191
0.191
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0.047
0.047
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.095
0.095
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.148
0.148
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0.057
0.057
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.337
0.337
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0.15
0.15
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.205
0.205
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0.063
0.063
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
68
36.69
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
1
28.57
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
75
40.47
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PAverified
3
85.71
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
136
73.38
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PAverified
4
114.29
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
37.96
20.48
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
-1
-28.56
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
7
3.78
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
79
42.63
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
287
154.86
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
5
142.86
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
3.87
3.87
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4.2
4.2
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.28
0.28
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
55
29.68
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
4
2.16
Fred Waters
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
0.54
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
0.54
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dazzy Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
100
100
Fred Waters
Career
Per 600 PA