Randy Messenger vs. Fernando Valenzuela — Career Comparison

Randy Messenger
MillenialNevadaThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaFlorida MarlinsNational LeagueRelief Pitcher
Fernando Valenzuela
Baby BoomersMexicoThrows LeftBats LeftNorth AmericaLos Angeles DodgersNational LeagueStarting PitcherGold GloveCy Young AwardSilver SluggerRookie of the YearAll-Star

Fernando Valenzuela built a career as a starting pitcher and Randy Messenger as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Randy Messenger led in walk avoidance (BB%+ 98 vs 80), home run suppression (HR9+ 113 vs 110), and skill-based run prevention (DICE+ 93 vs 91). Fernando Valenzuela held the edge in run prevention (ERA+ 95 vs 85). Role difference aside, Randy Messenger holds a clear edge on every meaningful shared measure.

Pitching Stats for Randy Messenger and Fernando Valenzuela

Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
5
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
17
17
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
173
8.43
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
453
1.39
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
424
1.3
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
0.19
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
173
0.53
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
12
0.58
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
153
0.47
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
25
25
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
53.07
53.07
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
93.6
93.6
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
113
0.35
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
31
0.1
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.1
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.01
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
100
4.87
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1154
3.54
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.87
4.87
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.54
3.54
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.5
5.5
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.5
3.5
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.53
4.53
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.79
3.79
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.305
0.305
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.248
0.248
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
554
27
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8790
27
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
184.2
9
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2930
9
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
225
10.97
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2718
8.35
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
10.97
10.97
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8.35
8.35
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
21
1.02
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
226
0.69
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.02
1.02
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.69
0.69
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.12
0.12
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.5
0.5
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
80
3.9
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1151
3.54
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
15
0.73
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
65
0.2
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.9
3.9
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.54
3.54
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
120
5.85
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2074
6.37
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.85
5.85
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
6.37
6.37
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.69
0.69
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.58
4.58
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.083
1.083
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.101
1.101
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
6
0.29
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Innings
119
0.37
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3
0.15
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
25
0.08
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Innings
11
0.03
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
844
41.13
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
12398
38.08
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
49
2.39
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Innings
10
0.03
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
104
5.07
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1303
4
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.07
5.07
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
4
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
13
0.63
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
182
0.56
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
10
0.49
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
69
0.21
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
19
0.93
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
209
0.64
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.652
1.652
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.321
1.321
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
738
35.97
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
10971
33.7
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.6
0.6
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.88
2.88
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.342
0.342
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.287
0.287
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
41.13
41.13
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Innings
38.08
38.08

Fielding Stats for Randy Messenger and Fernando Valenzuela

Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
5
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
17
17
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
173
8.43
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
455
1.4
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
424
1.3
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
554
27
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8798
27
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
184.2
9
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2932.2
9
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.24
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
202
0.62
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
24
1.17
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
586
1.8
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3
0.15
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
30
0.09
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
32
1.56
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
818
2.51
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
29
1.41
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
788
2.42
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
90.63
90.63
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
96.33
96.33
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.168
0.168
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.732
1.732
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
93.19
93.19
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.05
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
31
0.1
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Randy Messenger and Fernando Valenzuela

Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
5
5
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
17
17
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PAverified
173
12975
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
474
272.67
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
8
600
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
1043
600
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
6
450
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
936
538.45
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.167
0.167
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.2
0.2
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.563
0.563
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 600 PA
0.52
0.52
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
1
75
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
187
107.57
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
1
75
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
150
86.29
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
26
14.96
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
0.58
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
10
5.75
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
37
21.28
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.198
0.198
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.011
0.011
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.054
0.054
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.33
24.79
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
49.61
28.54
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
1
75
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
245
140.94
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
150
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
195
112.18
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.286
0.286
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 600 PA
0.205
0.205
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.167
0.167
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.262
0.262
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.452
0.452
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.467
0.467
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.062
0.062
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.17
0.17
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 600 PA
0.158
0.158
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.4
0.4
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 600 PA
0.332
0.332
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.333
0.333
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 600 PA
0.225
0.225
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
56
32.21
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
84
48.32
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
130
74.78
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PAverified
0.43
32.22
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
46.68
26.85
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
75
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
8
4.6
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
3
225
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 600 PAverified
145
83.41
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
2.67
2.67
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
7.19
7.19
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.33
0.33
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 600 PA
0.06
0.06
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
75
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
93
53.5
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
6
3.45
Randy Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 600 PA
12
6.9
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
1.15
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Fernando Valenzuela
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
1.15
Randy Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
Fernando Valenzuela
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0