Andrew Messenger vs. Luis Tiant — Career Comparison

Andrew Messenger
Lost GenerationMichiganThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaCleveland GuardiansAmerican LeagueStarting Pitcher
Luis Tiant
Silent GenerationCubaThrows RightBats RightCaribbeanBoston Red SoxAmerican LeagueStarting PitcherAll-Star

On the career pitching numbers, Luis Tiant posted a stronger line than Andrew Messenger. Luis Tiant posted stronger numbers in ERA (3.3 vs 4.32) and WHIP (1.214 vs 1.680). By the career numbers, Luis Tiant had the better of this comparison — though ERA and WHIP alone don't account for era, park factors, or the defenses each pitcher worked behind.

Pitching Stats for Andrew Messenger and Luis Tiant

Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
1
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
19
19
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
1.8
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
573
1.48
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.72
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
484
1.25
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.72
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
229
0.59
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Innings
172
0.44
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Innings
57.11
57.11
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
40
40
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
84.47
84.47
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.36
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
187
0.48
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
49
0.13
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
15
0.04
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
12
4.32
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1280
3.3
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.32
4.32
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.3
3.3
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.92
5.92
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.16
3.16
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
6.44
6.44
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.9
3.9
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.28
0.28
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.235
0.235
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
75
27
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
10459
27
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
25
9
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3486.1
9
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
28
10.08
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
3075
7.94
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
10.08
10.08
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7.94
7.94
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
4
1.44
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
346
0.89
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.44
1.44
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.89
0.89
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.8
0.8
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.6
0.6
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
14
5.04
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1104
2.85
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Innings
53
0.14
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.04
5.04
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.85
2.85
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
1.44
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2416
6.24
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.44
1.44
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
6.24
6.24
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.8
0.8
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.22
4.22
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.72
0.72
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.01
1.01
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
0.36
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
27
0.07
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Innings
49
0.13
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
0.01
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
114
41.04
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
14365
37.08
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.72
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
51
0.13
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
13
4.68
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1400
3.61
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.68
4.68
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.61
3.61
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Innings
76
0.2
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Innings
55
0.14
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
119
0.31
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.68
1.68
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.199
1.199
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
36
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
13081
33.77
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.6
2.6
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.44
2.44
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.261
0.261
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.265
0.265
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
41.04
41.04
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Innings
37.08
37.08

Fielding Stats for Andrew Messenger and Luis Tiant

Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
19
19
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
573
1.48
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
484
1.25
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
10459
27
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3486.1
9
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
221
0.57
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
6
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
389
1
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Innings
35
0.09
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
6
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
645
1.67
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
6
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
610
1.57
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
100
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
94.57
94.57
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1.2
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.065
1.065
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
84.47
84.47
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
31
0.08
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Andrew Messenger and Luis Tiant

Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
1
1
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
19
19
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
5
300
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
573
603.16
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
10
600
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
570
600
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
8
480
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
513
540
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.125
0.125
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.164
0.164
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.5
0.5
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 600 PA
0.462
0.462
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
1
60
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
84
88.42
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
64
67.37
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
60
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
14
14.74
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1.05
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
5
5.26
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
60
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
20
21.05
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 600 PA
0.238
0.238
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.01
0.01
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.06
0.06
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.26
15.41
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
21.77
22.92
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
2
120
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
115
121.05
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
1
60
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
98
103.16
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.125
0.125
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.185
0.185
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.25
0.25
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 600 PA
0.224
0.224
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.375
0.375
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.41
0.41
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.125
0.125
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 600 PA
0.061
0.061
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.119
0.119
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.139
0.139
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.286
0.286
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.296
0.296
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.167
0.167
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.217
0.217
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
36
37.89
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
120
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
44
46.32
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
120
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
75
78.95
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.05
3.23
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
13.18
13.88
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1.05
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
13
13.68
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
120
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 600 PA
146
153.68
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
5
5
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 600 PA
3.9
3.9
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.09
0.09
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
120
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
41
43.16
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
2.11
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Luis Tiant
Career
Per 600 PA
10
10.53
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1.05
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1.05
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
2.11
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
Luis Tiant
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
50
50