Ryan Madson vs. Herb Thomas — Career Comparison

Ryan Madson
Gen XCaliforniaThrows RightBats LeftNorth AmericaPhiladelphia PhilliesNational LeagueRelief Pitcher
Herb Thomas
Greatest GenerationThrows LeftNew York Lincoln GiantsIndependentStarting Pitcher

Herb Thomas built a career as a starting pitcher and Ryan Madson as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Ryan Madson posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 3.48 and WHIP 1.292 compared to 8.08 and 1.980 for Herb Thomas. By the career numbers, Ryan Madson had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Ryan Madson and Herb Thomas

Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
13
13
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
3
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
740
7.66
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
20
2.21
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
18
0.19
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
14
1.55
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
61
0.63
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.55
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
48
0.5
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
5
0.55
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
55.96
55.96
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
50
50
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.43
2.43
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
70
70
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
6
0.66
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.11
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
91
0.94
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.11
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
336
3.48
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
73
8.08
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.48
3.48
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
8.08
8.08
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.5
3.5
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
6.87
6.87
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.46
3.46
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.56
4.56
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.253
0.253
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.341
0.341
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2609
27
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
244
27
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
869.2
9
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
81.1
9
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
830
8.59
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
122
13.5
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8.59
8.59
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
13.5
13.5
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
82
0.85
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
0.44
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.85
0.85
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.44
0.44
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.11
0.11
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.2
0.2
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
250
2.59
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
39
4.32
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
44
0.46
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.59
2.59
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.32
4.32
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
775
8.02
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
24
2.66
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8.02
8.02
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.66
2.66
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.05
1.05
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.2
1.2
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.179
1.179
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.775
0.775
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
40
0.41
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
44
0.46
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.22
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.05
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3631
37.58
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
410
45.37
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
236
2.44
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
0.33
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
358
3.7
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
84
9.3
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.7
3.7
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
9.3
9.3
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
36
0.37
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
11
1.22
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
24
0.25
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
80
0.83
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
0.44
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.242
1.242
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.98
1.98
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3277
33.91
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
358
39.61
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.48
0.48
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.2
4.2
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.309
0.309
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.358
0.358
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
37.58
37.58
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
45.37
45.37

Fielding Stats for Ryan Madson and Herb Thomas

Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
13
13
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
3
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
740
7.66
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
22
2.35
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
18
0.19
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
14
1.49
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2609
27
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
253
27
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
869.2
9
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
84.1
9
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
42
0.43
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
6
0.64
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
103
1.07
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
25
2.67
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.02
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.21
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
147
1.52
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
33
3.52
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
145
1.5
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
31
3.31
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
98.64
98.64
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
93.94
93.94
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.196
0.196
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.409
1.409
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.43
2.43
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
63.64
63.64
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6
0.06
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.11
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Ryan Madson and Herb Thomas

Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
13
13
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
3
3
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
740
7655.17
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
22
347.37
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
58
600
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
38
600
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
49
506.9
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
34
536.84
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.122
0.122
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.206
0.206
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.397
0.397
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.513
0.513
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
6
62.07
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
7
110.53
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
5
51.72
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
6
94.74
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
1
10.34
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
15.79
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
1
10.34
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
15.79
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.167
0.167
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0.143
0.143
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.81
8.37
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1.79
28.34
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
7
72.41
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
8
126.32
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
8
82.76
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
8
126.32
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.157
0.157
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.229
0.229
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.143
0.143
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.235
0.235
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.3
0.3
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.464
0.464
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.021
0.021
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.029
0.029
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.106
0.106
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.162
0.162
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.2
0.2
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.333
0.333
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.214
0.214
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0.206
0.206
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
3
31.03
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
63.16
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
2
20.69
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
5
78.95
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
5
51.72
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
9
142.11
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
-0.71
-7.3
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2.04
32.28
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
20.69
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
1
15.79
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
21
217.24
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2.76
2.76
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.1
0.1
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
7
72.41
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
3
47.37
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
2
20.69
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA