Ted Lilly vs. Herb Thomas — Career Comparison

Ted Lilly
Gen XCaliforniaThrows LeftBats LeftNorth AmericaChicago CubsNational LeagueStarting PitcherAll-Star
Herb Thomas
Greatest GenerationThrows LeftNew York Lincoln GiantsIndependentStarting Pitcher

Looking at the career totals, Ted Lilly and Herb Thomas are fairly close on the surface numbers. Ted Lilly posted stronger numbers in ERA (4.14 vs 8.08) and WHIP (1.273 vs 1.980). Herb Thomas had the advantage in home runs allowed (0.44 per nine innings vs 1.33). By the career numbers, Ted Lilly had the better of this comparison — though ERA and WHIP alone don't account for era, park factors, or the defenses each pitcher worked behind.

Pitching Stats for Ted Lilly and Herb Thomas

Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
15
15
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
3
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
356
1.62
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
20
2.21
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
331
1.5
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
14
1.55
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
130
0.59
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.55
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
113
0.51
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
5
0.55
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
53.5
53.5
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
50
50
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
92.98
92.98
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
70
70
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.02
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
6
0.66
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3
0.01
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.11
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.11
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
913
4.14
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
73
8.08
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.14
4.14
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
8.08
8.08
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.78
3.78
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
6.87
6.87
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.32
4.32
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.56
4.56
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.242
0.242
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.341
0.341
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
5948
27
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
244
27
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1982.2
9
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
81.1
9
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1827
8.29
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
122
13.5
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8.29
8.29
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
13.5
13.5
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Innings
293
1.33
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
0.44
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.33
1.33
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.44
0.44
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.82
0.82
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.2
0.2
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
661
3
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
39
4.32
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Innings
35
0.16
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
3
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.32
4.32
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1681
7.63
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
24
2.66
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7.63
7.63
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.66
2.66
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.72
4.72
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.2
1.2
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.181
1.181
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.775
0.775
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Innings
58
0.26
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Innings
63
0.29
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.22
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Innings
29
0.13
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8390
38.09
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
410
45.37
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
5
0.02
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
0.33
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
974
4.42
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
84
9.3
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.42
4.42
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
9.3
9.3
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
68
0.31
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
11
1.22
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Innings
47
0.21
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
105
0.48
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
0.44
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.255
1.255
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.98
1.98
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
7551
34.28
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
358
39.61
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.74
2.74
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.2
4.2
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.275
0.275
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.358
0.358
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Innings
38.09
38.09
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
45.37
45.37

Fielding Stats for Ted Lilly and Herb Thomas

Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
15
15
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
3
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
356
1.62
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
22
2.35
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
331
1.5
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
14
1.49
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
5948
27
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
253
27
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1982.2
9
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
84.1
9
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
67
0.3
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
6
0.64
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
214
0.97
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
25
2.67
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
17
0.08
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2
0.21
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
298
1.35
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
33
3.52
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
281
1.28
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
31
3.31
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
94.3
94.3
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
93.94
93.94
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.789
0.789
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.409
1.409
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
92.98
92.98
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
63.64
63.64
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
5
0.02
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.11
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Ted Lilly and Herb Thomas

Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
15
15
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
3
3
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
357
545.04
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
22
347.37
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
393
600
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
38
600
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
347
529.77
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
34
536.84
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 600 PA
0.101
0.101
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.206
0.206
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 600 PA
0.332
0.332
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.513
0.513
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
35
53.44
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
7
110.53
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
28
42.75
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
6
94.74
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
6
9.16
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
15.79
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1.53
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
7
10.69
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
15.79
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.2
0.2
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0.143
0.143
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
5.28
8.07
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1.79
28.34
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
43
65.65
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
8
126.32
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
44
67.18
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
8
126.32
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 600 PA
0.124
0.124
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.229
0.229
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 600 PA
0.124
0.124
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.235
0.235
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 600 PA
0.248
0.248
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.464
0.464
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 600 PA
0.023
0.023
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.029
0.029
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 600 PA
0.087
0.087
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.162
0.162
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 600 PA
0.174
0.174
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.333
0.333
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 600 PA
0.177
0.177
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.206
0.206
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
10
15.27
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
4
63.16
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
17
25.95
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
5
78.95
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
27
41.22
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
9
142.11
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 600 PA
-8.04
-12.27
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2.04
32.28
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1.53
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
8
12.21
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
15.79
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 600 PA
149
227.48
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2.64
2.64
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.05
0.05
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
37
56.49
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
3
47.37
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ted Lilly
Career
Per 600 PA
2
3.05
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
4.58
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
3.05
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
5
7.63
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ted Lilly
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
60
60
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA