Thornton Lee vs. Joe Shipley — Career Comparison

Thornton Lee
Greatest GenerationCaliforniaThrows LeftBats LeftNorth AmericaChicago White SoxAmerican LeagueStarting PitcherAll-Star
Joe Shipley
Silent GenerationTennesseeThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaSan Francisco GiantsNational LeagueRelief Pitcher

Thornton Lee built a career as a starting pitcher and Joe Shipley as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Thornton Lee posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 3.56 and WHIP 1.358 compared to 5.93 and 1.909 for Joe Shipley. By the career numbers, Thornton Lee had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Thornton Lee and Joe Shipley

Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
16
16
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
4
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
374
1.44
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
29
5.93
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
272
1.05
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.2
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
117
0.45
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
124
0.48
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.2
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
48.55
48.55
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
72.73
72.73
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.45
3.45
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
155
0.6
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
14
0.05
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
10
0.04
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
921
3.56
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
29
5.93
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.56
3.56
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.93
5.93
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.64
3.64
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
6.74
6.74
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
4
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.93
5.93
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.255
0.255
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.278
0.278
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6994
27
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
132
27
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2331.1
9
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
44
9
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2327
8.98
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
48
9.82
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8.98
8.98
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
9.82
9.82
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
121
0.47
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
4
0.82
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.47
0.47
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.82
0.82
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.32
0.32
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.14
0.14
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
838
3.24
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
35
7.16
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.2
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.24
3.24
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
7.16
7.16
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
937
3.62
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
23
4.7
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.62
3.62
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.7
4.7
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.51
2.51
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.79
0.79
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.761
0.761
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.318
1.318
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
24
0.09
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
4
0.82
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
43
0.17
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6
1.23
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
7
0.03
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
0.2
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
9999
38.6
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
214
43.77
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
50
0.19
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
13
2.66
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1105
4.27
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
36
7.36
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.27
4.27
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
7.36
7.36
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.358
1.358
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.886
1.886
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
9118
35.2
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
173
35.39
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.95
2.95
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.24
1.24
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.274
0.274
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.301
0.301
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
38.6
38.6
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
43.77
43.77

Fielding Stats for Thornton Lee and Joe Shipley

Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
16
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
4
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
374
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
29
5.93
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.2
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
132
27
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
44
9
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
67
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
428
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
10
2.05
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
38
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
0.2
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
533
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
11
2.25
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
495
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
10
2.05
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
92.87
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
90.91
90.91
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1.324
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.345
0.345
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.45
3.45
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
21
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Thornton Lee and Joe Shipley

Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
16
16
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
4
4
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
375
254.24
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PAverified
29
3480
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
885
600
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
5
600
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
835
566.1
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PAverified
5
600
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.2
0.2
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.499
0.499
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
167
113.22
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
135
91.53
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
24
16.27
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
2.71
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
2.71
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
32
21.69
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.192
0.192
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.005
0.005
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.024
0.024
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
43.79
29.69
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
211
143.05
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
195
132.2
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.226
0.226
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.253
0.253
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.479
0.479
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.053
0.053
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.165
0.165
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.346
0.346
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.262
0.262
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
63
42.71
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
66
44.75
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
125
84.75
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
40.01
27.13
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
-0.53
-63.84
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
0.68
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
27
18.31
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PAverified
208
141.02
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
3
360
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4.25
4.25
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
1.67
1.67
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.13
0.13
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
22
14.92
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
23
15.59
Joe Shipley
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
Joe Shipley
Career
Per 600 PA