Cliff Lee vs. Herb Thomas — Career Comparison

Cliff Lee
Gen XArkansasThrows LeftBats LeftNorth AmericaCleveland GuardiansAmerican LeagueStarting PitcherCy Young AwardAll-Star
Herb Thomas
Greatest GenerationThrows LeftNew York Lincoln GiantsIndependentStarting Pitcher

Looking at the career totals, Cliff Lee and Herb Thomas are fairly close on the surface numbers. Cliff Lee posted stronger numbers in ERA (3.52 vs 8.08) and WHIP (1.202 vs 1.980). Herb Thomas had the advantage in home runs allowed (0.44 per nine innings vs 0.93). By the career numbers, Cliff Lee had the better of this comparison — though ERA and WHIP alone don't account for era, park factors, or the defenses each pitcher worked behind.

Pitching Stats for Cliff Lee and Herb Thomas

Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
13
13
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
3
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
328
1.37
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
20
2.21
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
324
1.35
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
14
1.55
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
143
0.6
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.55
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
91
0.38
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
5
0.55
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
61.11
61.11
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
50
50
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
98.78
98.78
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
70
70
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
29
0.12
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
6
0.66
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
12
0.05
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.11
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.11
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
843
3.52
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
73
8.08
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.52
3.52
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
8.08
8.08
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.37
3.37
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
6.87
6.87
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.37
3.37
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.56
4.56
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.255
0.255
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.341
0.341
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6470
27
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
244
27
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2156.2
9
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
81.1
9
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2116
8.83
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
122
13.5
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8.83
8.83
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
13.5
13.5
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
223
0.93
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
0.44
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.93
0.93
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.44
0.44
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.68
0.68
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.2
0.2
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
464
1.94
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
39
4.32
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
12
0.05
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.94
1.94
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.32
4.32
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1824
7.61
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
24
2.66
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7.61
7.61
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.66
2.66
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5.56
5.56
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.2
1.2
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.061
1.061
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.775
0.775
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
41
0.17
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
50
0.21
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2
0.22
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.01
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8917
37.21
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
410
45.37
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
0.33
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
923
3.85
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
84
9.3
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.85
3.85
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
9.3
9.3
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
53
0.22
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
11
1.22
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
54
0.23
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
166
0.69
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
0.44
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.196
1.196
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.98
1.98
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8296
34.62
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
358
39.61
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.81
2.81
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.2
4.2
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.303
0.303
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.358
0.358
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
37.21
37.21
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
45.37
45.37

Fielding Stats for Cliff Lee and Herb Thomas

Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
13
13
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
3
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
328
1.37
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
22
2.35
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
324
1.35
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
14
1.49
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6470
27
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
253
27
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2156.2
9
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
84.1
9
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
83
0.35
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
6
0.64
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
188
0.78
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
25
2.67
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
18
0.08
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2
0.21
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
289
1.21
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
33
3.52
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
271
1.13
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
31
3.31
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
93.77
93.77
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
93.94
93.94
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.826
0.826
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.409
1.409
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
98.78
98.78
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
63.64
63.64
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
12
0.05
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.11
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Cliff Lee and Herb Thomas

Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
13
13
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
3
3
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
337
629.91
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
22
347.37
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
321
600
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
38
600
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
291
543.93
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
34
536.84
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.175
0.175
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.206
0.206
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.468
0.468
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.513
0.513
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
51
95.33
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
7
110.53
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
41
76.64
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
6
94.74
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
7
13.08
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
15.79
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1.87
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
3.74
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
10
18.69
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
1
15.79
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.196
0.196
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0.143
0.143
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.007
0.007
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.039
0.039
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
12.47
23.32
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1.79
28.34
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
66
123.36
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
8
126.32
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
56
104.67
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
8
126.32
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.189
0.189
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.229
0.229
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.227
0.227
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.235
0.235
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.415
0.415
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.464
0.464
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.052
0.052
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0.029
0.029
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.142
0.142
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.162
0.162
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.298
0.298
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.333
0.333
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.272
0.272
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0.206
0.206
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
18
33.64
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
4
63.16
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
19
35.51
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
5
78.95
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
35
65.42
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
9
142.11
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
8.75
16.36
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2.04
32.28
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
5
9.35
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
15.79
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
110
205.61
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2.92
2.92
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.05
0.05
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
24
44.86
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PAverified
3
47.37
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1.87
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
3
5.61
Herb Thomas
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
3.74
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
3.74
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
7.48
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
50
50
Herb Thomas
Career
Per 600 PA