Cliff Lee vs. Dave Thies — Career Comparison

Cliff Lee
Gen XArkansasThrows LeftBats LeftNorth AmericaCleveland GuardiansAmerican LeagueStarting PitcherCy Young AwardAll-Star
Dave Thies
Silent GenerationMinnesotaThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaKansas City AthleticsAmerican LeagueRelief Pitcher

Cliff Lee built a career as a starting pitcher and Dave Thies as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Cliff Lee posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 3.52 and WHIP 1.202 compared to 4.62 and 1.500 for Dave Thies. By the career numbers, Cliff Lee had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Cliff Lee and Dave Thies

Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
13
13
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
1
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
328
1.37
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
9
3.2
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
324
1.35
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.71
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
143
0.6
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
91
0.38
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.36
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
61.11
61.11
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
98.78
98.78
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
22.22
22.22
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
29
0.12
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
12
0.05
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
843
3.52
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
13
4.62
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.52
3.52
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.62
4.62
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.37
3.37
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.84
4.84
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.37
3.37
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.97
4.97
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.255
0.255
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.271
0.271
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6470
27
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
76
27
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2156.2
9
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
25.1
9
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2116
8.83
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
26
9.24
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8.83
8.83
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
9.24
9.24
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
223
0.93
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.71
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.93
0.93
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.71
0.71
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.68
0.68
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.22
0.22
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
464
1.94
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
12
4.26
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
12
0.05
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.94
1.94
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.26
4.26
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1824
7.61
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
9
3.2
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7.61
7.61
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.2
3.2
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5.56
5.56
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
1
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.061
1.061
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.829
0.829
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
41
0.17
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
0.36
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
50
0.21
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2
0.71
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.01
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8917
37.21
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
110
39.08
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
1.07
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
923
3.85
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
15
5.33
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.85
3.85
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.33
5.33
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
53
0.22
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
54
0.23
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
166
0.69
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.196
1.196
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.5
1.5
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8296
34.62
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
96
34.11
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.81
2.81
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.67
1.67
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.303
0.303
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.282
0.282
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
37.21
37.21
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
39.08
39.08

Fielding Stats for Cliff Lee and Dave Thies

Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
13
13
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
1
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
328
1.37
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
9
3.2
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
324
1.35
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.71
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6470
27
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
76
27
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2156.2
9
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
25.1
9
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
83
0.35
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
188
0.78
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
6
2.13
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
18
0.08
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
289
1.21
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
6
2.13
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
271
1.13
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
6
2.13
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
93.77
93.77
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.826
0.826
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.667
0.667
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
98.78
98.78
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
22.22
22.22
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
12
0.05
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Thies
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Cliff Lee and Dave Thies

Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
13
13
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PA
1
1
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
337
629.91
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PAverified
9
900
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
321
600
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PA
6
600
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
291
543.93
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PAverified
6
600
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.175
0.175
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.333
0.333
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.468
0.468
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.833
0.833
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
51
95.33
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
200
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
41
76.64
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
100
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
7
13.08
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
100
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1.87
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
3.74
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
10
18.69
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
100
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.196
0.196
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.5
0.5
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.007
0.007
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.039
0.039
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
12.47
23.32
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PAverified
0.9
90.41
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
66
123.36
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PAverified
3
300
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
56
104.67
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
200
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.189
0.189
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.333
0.333
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.227
0.227
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.5
0.5
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.415
0.415
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.833
0.833
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.052
0.052
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.167
0.167
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.142
0.142
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.275
0.275
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.298
0.298
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.75
0.75
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.272
0.272
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.5
0.5
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
18
33.64
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
100
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
19
35.51
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
100
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
35
65.42
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
200
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
8.75
16.36
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PAverified
0.94
93.53
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
5
9.35
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
110
205.61
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
200
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
2.92
2.92
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
3
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.05
0.05
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
24
44.86
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1.87
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
3
5.61
Dave Thies
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
3.74
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
3.74
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
7.48
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Cliff Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
50
50
Dave Thies
Career
Per 600 PA