Shang Johnson vs. Bob Vines — Career Comparison

Lost GenerationAlabamaThrows RightNorth AmericaAtlantic City Bacharach GiantsEastern Colored League (Independent)Starting Pitcher
Lost GenerationTexasThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaPhiladelphia PhilliesNational LeagueRelief Pitcher

Shang Johnson built a career as a starting pitcher and Bob Vines as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Shang Johnson posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 4.18 and WHIP 1.347 compared to 9.82 and 2.386 for Bob Vines. By the career numbers, Shang Johnson had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Shang Johnson and Bob Vines

Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
5
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
2
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
17
1.73
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
3.07
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8
0.82
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
0.31
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.2
Bob Vines
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
60
60
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
47.06
47.06
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
0.41
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
41
4.18
Bob Vines
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
16
9.82
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.18
4.18
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
9.82
9.82
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.79
3.79
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
10.14
10.14
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.42
3.42
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.5
4.5
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.298
0.298
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.416
0.416
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
265
27
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
44
27
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
88.1
9
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
14.2
9
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
90
9.17
Bob Vines
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
32
19.64
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
9.17
9.17
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
19.64
19.64
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.2
Bob Vines
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
0.61
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.2
0.2
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.61
0.61
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.12
0.12
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.2
0.2
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
29
2.95
Bob Vines
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
1.84
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.95
2.95
Bob Vines
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.84
1.84
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
38
3.87
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.87
3.87
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.24
2.24
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.759
0.759
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.205
0.205
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.61
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
339
34.54
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
80
49.09
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
5
0.51
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
1.23
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
56
5.71
Bob Vines
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
23
14.11
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5.71
5.71
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
14.11
14.11
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
8
0.82
Bob Vines
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.2
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.347
1.347
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.386
2.386
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
302
30.77
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
77
47.25
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.29
3.29
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.6
4.6
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.336
0.336
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.408
0.408
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
34.54
34.54
Bob Vines
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
49.09
49.09

Fielding Stats for Shang Johnson and Bob Vines

Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
5
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
18
2.02
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
0.45
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
241
27
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
80.1
9
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
18
2.02
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.22
Bob Vines
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
20
2.24
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
18
2.02
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
90
90
Bob Vines
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
100
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
1
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.6
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
22.22
22.22
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 9 Innings
0

Hitting Stats for Shang Johnson and Bob Vines

Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
5
5
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
2
2
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
21
293.02
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PAverified
5
750
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
43
600
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
4
600
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
37
516.28
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PAverified
4
600
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.27
0.27
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.64
0.64
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
10
139.53
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
10
139.53
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3.29
45.84
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
10
139.53
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
13
181.4
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.325
0.325
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.27
0.27
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.595
0.595
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.214
0.214
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.482
0.482
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.27
0.27
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
27.91
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
13.95
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
41.86
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4.49
62.66
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
-0.41
-61.6
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
41.86
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
1
150
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
Bob Vines
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
4
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
41.86
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
Bob Vines
Career
Per 600 PA