Red Hoff vs. Shang Johnson — Career Comparison

Lost GenerationNew YorkThrows LeftBats LeftNorth AmericaNew York YankeesAmerican LeagueRelief Pitcher
Lost GenerationAlabamaThrows RightNorth AmericaAtlantic City Bacharach GiantsEastern Colored League (Independent)Starting Pitcher

Shang Johnson built a career as a starting pitcher and Red Hoff as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Red Hoff posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 2.49 and WHIP 1.265 compared to 4.18 and 1.347 for Shang Johnson. By the career numbers, Red Hoff had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Red Hoff and Shang Johnson

Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
4
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
5
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
23
2.49
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
17
1.73
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.54
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8
0.82
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.22
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
0.31
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
0.43
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.2
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
33.33
33.33
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
60
60
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
21.74
21.74
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
47.06
47.06
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.22
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
0.41
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
23
2.49
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
41
4.18
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.49
2.49
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.18
4.18
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.64
2.64
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.79
3.79
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.23
3.23
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.42
3.42
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.218
0.218
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.298
0.298
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
249
27
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
265
27
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
83
9
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
88.1
9
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
67
7.27
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
90
9.17
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7.27
7.27
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
9.17
9.17
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.2
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.2
0.2
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.12
0.12
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
38
4.12
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
29
2.95
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.12
4.12
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.95
2.95
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
49
5.31
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
38
3.87
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5.31
5.31
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.87
3.87
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.13
2.13
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.24
2.24
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.048
1.048
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.759
0.759
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.54
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.11
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
347
37.63
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
339
34.54
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
15
1.63
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.51
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
38
4.12
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
56
5.71
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.12
4.12
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.71
5.71
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
8
0.82
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.2
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.265
1.265
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.347
1.347
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
308
33.4
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
302
30.77
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.65
1.65
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.29
3.29
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.259
0.259
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.336
0.336
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
37.63
37.63
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
34.54
34.54

Fielding Stats for Red Hoff and Shang Johnson

Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
5
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
23
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
18
2.02
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
0.45
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
241
27
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
80.1
9
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
4
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
29
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
18
2.02
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2
0.22
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
38
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
20
2.24
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
33
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
18
2.02
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
86.84
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
90
90
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1.435
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
1
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
22.22
22.22
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Red Hoff and Shang Johnson

Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
4
4
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
5
5
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
23
460
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
21
293.02
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
30
600
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
43
600
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PAverified
30
600
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
37
516.28
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0.2
0.2
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.27
0.27
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0.429
0.429
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.64
0.64
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
6
120
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
10
139.53
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
6
120
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
10
139.53
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
1.24
24.86
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3.29
45.84
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
6
120
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
10
139.53
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
6
120
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
13
181.4
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0.2
0.2
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.325
0.325
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0.2
0.2
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.27
0.27
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0.4
0.4
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.595
0.595
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0.14
0.14
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.214
0.214
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0.292
0.292
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.482
0.482
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0.231
0.231
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.27
0.27
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
27.91
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
40
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
1
13.95
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
2
40
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
41.86
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
1.26
25.25
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4.49
62.66
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
41.86
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
4
80
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
7.5
7.5
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
41.86
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
20
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Red Hoff
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
20
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Red Hoff
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
100
100
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA