Ron Herbel vs. Addie Joss — Career Comparison

Ron Herbel
Silent GenerationColoradoThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaSan Francisco GiantsNational LeagueRelief Pitcher
Addie Joss
Pre-GenerationalWisconsinThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaCleveland GuardiansAmerican LeagueHall of FameStarting Pitcher

Addie Joss built a career as a starting pitcher and Ron Herbel as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Addie Joss posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 1.89 and WHIP 0.968 compared to 3.83 and 1.437 for Ron Herbel. By the career numbers, Addie Joss had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Ron Herbel and Addie Joss

Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
9
9
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
9
9
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
331
3.33
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
286
1.11
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
79
0.8
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
260
1.01
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
42
0.42
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
160
0.62
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
37
0.37
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
97
0.38
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
53.16
53.16
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
62.26
62.26
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
23.87
23.87
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
90.91
90.91
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
11
0.11
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
234
0.91
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
0.03
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
45
0.17
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
16
0.16
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.02
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
380
3.83
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
488
1.89
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.83
3.83
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.89
1.89
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.01
4.01
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.84
1.84
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.2
4.2
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.86
2.86
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.269
0.269
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.223
0.223
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
2682
27
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6981
27
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
894
9
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2327
9
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
945
9.51
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1888
7.3
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
9.51
9.51
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7.3
7.3
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
81
0.82
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
19
0.07
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.82
0.82
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.07
0.07
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.24
0.24
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.07
0.07
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
285
2.87
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
364
1.41
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
55
0.55
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.87
2.87
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.41
1.41
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
447
4.5
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
920
3.56
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.5
4.5
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.56
3.56
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.35
1.35
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.22
3.22
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.819
0.819
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.552
0.552
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
40
0.4
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
28
0.11
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
20
0.2
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
58
0.22
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.05
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
3836
38.62
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8891
34.39
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
1.01
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
22
0.09
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
442
4.45
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
730
2.82
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.45
4.45
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.82
2.82
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
11
0.11
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
6
0.06
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.376
1.376
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.968
0.968
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
3514
35.38
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8469
32.76
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.34
1.34
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.55
2.55
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.289
0.289
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.248
0.248
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
38.62
38.62
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
34.39
34.39

Fielding Stats for Ron Herbel and Addie Joss

Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
9
9
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
9
9
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
331
3.33
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
295
1.12
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
79
0.8
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
204
0.77
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
2683
27
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
7134
27
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
894.1
9
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2378
9
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
63
0.63
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
185
0.7
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
188
1.89
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
848
3.21
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
11
0.11
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
36
0.14
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
262
2.64
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1069
4.05
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
251
2.53
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1033
3.91
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
95.8
95.8
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
96.63
96.63
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.758
0.758
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.502
3.502
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
23.87
23.87
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
69.15
69.15
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
15
0.15
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
24
0.09
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Ron Herbel and Addie Joss

Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
9
9
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
9
9
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
332
885.33
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
296
194.95
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
225
600
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
911
600
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PAverified
206
549.33
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
817
538.09
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0.029
0.029
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.144
0.144
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0.164
0.164
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.441
0.441
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
6
16
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
118
77.72
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
4
10.67
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
90
59.28
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
2
5.33
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
21
13.83
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
6
3.95
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
0.66
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
2
5.33
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
28
18.44
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.333
0.333
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0.237
0.237
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.001
0.001
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.009
0.009
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0.42
1.12
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
34.95
23.02
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
8
21.33
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
154
101.43
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
14
37.33
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
173
113.94
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0.065
0.065
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.198
0.198
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0.039
0.039
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.189
0.189
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0.104
0.104
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.387
0.387
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0.01
0.01
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.044
0.044
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0.039
0.039
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.136
0.136
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0.079
0.079
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.313
0.313
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0.074
0.074
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.225
0.225
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
6
16
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
46
30.3
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
3
8
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
51
33.59
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
9
24
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
96
63.23
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
-15.81
-42.16
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
23.55
15.51
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
0.66
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
8
21.33
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
54
35.57
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
125
333.33
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PAverified
297
195.61
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
1.8
1.8
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3.07
3.07
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0.06
0.06
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.18
0.18
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PAverified
11
29.33
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
39
25.69
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
2
5.33
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
10
6.59
Ron Herbel
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
2.67
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
1
2.67
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
10
6.59
Ron Herbel
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
100
100