Ray Herbert vs. Bobby Shantz — Career Comparison

Ray Herbert
Silent GenerationMichiganThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaKansas City AthleticsAmerican LeagueStarting PitcherAll-Star
Bobby Shantz
Greatest GenerationPennsylvaniaThrows LeftBats RightNorth AmericaPhiladelphia AthleticsAmerican LeagueStarting PitcherGold GloveMVPAll-Star

Ray Herbert and Bobby Shantz are about as close as two starters get — the gap between them is negligible across the key measures. Their run-prevention numbers were nearly identical — ERA+ of 93 for Ray Herbert and 91 for Bobby Shantz, with skill-based marks of DICE+ 96 and 97 respectively. If forced to pick, Bobby Shantz gets the slight nod, but this is a genuinely even pairing.

Pitching Stats for Ray Herbert and Bobby Shantz

Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
14
14
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
16
16
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
407
1.95
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
537
2.5
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
236
1.13
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
171
0.8
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
104
0.5
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
119
0.55
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
107
0.51
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
99
0.46
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
49.29
49.29
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
54.59
54.59
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
57.99
57.99
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
31.84
31.84
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
68
0.33
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
78
0.36
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
13
0.06
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
15
0.07
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
15
0.07
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
48
0.22
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
839
4.01
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
726
3.38
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.01
4.01
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.38
3.38
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.02
4.02
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.35
3.35
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.18
4.18
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.97
3.97
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.27
0.27
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.244
0.244
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
5644
27
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
5807
27
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
1881.1
9
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1935.2
9
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
2000
9.57
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1795
8.35
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
9.57
9.57
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8.35
8.35
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
167
0.8
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
151
0.7
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.8
0.8
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.7
0.7
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.41
0.41
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.28
0.28
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
571
2.73
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
643
2.99
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
40
0.19
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
53
0.25
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.73
2.73
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.99
2.99
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
864
4.13
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1072
4.98
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.13
4.13
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.98
4.98
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.12
2.12
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
2
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.763
0.763
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.886
0.886
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
38
0.18
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
29
0.13
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
24
0.11
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
41
0.19
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.01
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
6
0.03
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
8010
38.32
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8045
37.41
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
74
0.35
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
192
0.89
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
927
4.43
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
817
3.8
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.43
4.43
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.8
3.8
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.367
1.367
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.26
1.26
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7415
35.47
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
7361
34.23
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.28
2.28
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.52
1.52
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.287
0.287
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.268
0.268
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
38.32
38.32
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
37.41
37.41

Fielding Stats for Ray Herbert and Bobby Shantz

Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
14
14
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
16
16
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
407
2.08
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
538
4.82
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
230
1.18
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
67
0.6
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
5280
27
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
3011
27
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1760
9
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
1003.2
9
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
126
0.64
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
175
1.57
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
389
1.99
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
468
4.2
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
13
0.07
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
16
0.14
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
528
2.7
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
659
5.91
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
515
2.63
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
643
5.77
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
97.54
97.54
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
97.57
97.57
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.265
1.265
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.195
1.195
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
56.51
56.51
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
12.45
12.45
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
41
0.21
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
48
0.43
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Ray Herbert and Bobby Shantz

Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
14
14
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
16
16
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
408
374.31
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
578
537.67
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
654
600
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 600 PA
645
600
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
569
522.02
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 600 PA
548
509.77
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
0.192
0.192
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.195
0.195
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
0.564
0.564
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.566
0.566
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
109
100
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 600 PA
107
99.53
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
80
73.39
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
84
78.14
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
21
19.27
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 600 PA
20
18.6
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
1
0.92
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
1.86
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
7
6.42
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 600 PA
1
0.93
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
29
26.61
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 600 PA
23
21.4
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.266
0.266
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 600 PA
0.215
0.215
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.012
0.012
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 600 PA
0.002
0.002
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.064
0.064
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 600 PA
0.009
0.009
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
38.96
35.74
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 600 PA
37.69
35.06
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
153
140.37
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 600 PA
134
124.65
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
153
140.37
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
159
147.91
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
0.248
0.248
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.265
0.265
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.269
0.269
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 600 PA
0.245
0.245
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.517
0.517
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 600 PA
0.509
0.509
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.077
0.077
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 600 PA
0.049
0.049
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
0.179
0.179
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.18
0.18
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
0.417
0.417
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.423
0.423
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.236
0.236
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 600 PA
0.235
0.235
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
46
42.2
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
60
55.81
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
51
46.79
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 600 PA
46
42.79
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
90
82.57
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
105
97.67
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
37.1
34.04
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
40.25
37.44
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
2
1.83
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
5
4.65
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
42
38.53
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
47
43.72
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
133
122.02
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
96
89.3
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
4.92
4.92
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
6.72
6.72
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
0.32
0.32
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.49
0.49
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
37
33.94
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
44
40.93
Ray Herbert
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
3.67
Bobby Shantz
Career
Per 600 PA
1
0.93
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
13
11.93
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
3.72
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
2.79
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
1.86
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
5
4.65
Ray Herbert
Career
Per 600 PA
Bobby Shantz
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
60
60