Bill Forman vs. Joe Grzenda — Career Comparison

Bill Forman
Lost GenerationPennsylvaniaThrows RightBats SwitchNorth AmericaWashington SenatorsAmerican LeagueStarting Pitcher
Joe Grzenda
Silent GenerationPennsylvaniaThrows LeftBats RightNorth AmericaWashington SenatorsAmerican LeagueRelief Pitcher

Bill Forman built a career as a starting pitcher and Joe Grzenda as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Joe Grzenda posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 4 and WHIP 1.562 compared to 5.4 and 1.371 for Bill Forman. By the career numbers, Joe Grzenda had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Bill Forman and Joe Grzenda

Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
2
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8
8
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
2.31
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
219
6.4
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
1.54
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3
0.09
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
14
0.41
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2
1.54
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
13
0.38
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
51.85
51.85
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
66.67
66.67
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.37
1.37
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.77
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
14
0.41
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
7
5.4
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
137
4
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.4
5.4
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
4
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.63
3.63
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.03
4.03
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.97
4.97
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.99
3.99
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.22
0.22
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.273
0.273
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
35
27
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
924
27
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
11.2
9
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
308
9
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
9
6.94
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
323
9.44
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
6.94
6.94
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
9.44
9.44
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
20
0.58
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.58
0.58
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.09
0.09
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
7
5.4
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
120
3.51
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
38
1.11
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.4
5.4
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.51
3.51
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
1.54
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
173
5.06
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.54
1.54
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5.06
5.06
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.67
0.67
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.79
0.79
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.771
0.771
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.951
0.951
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
0.77
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
22
0.64
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2
1.54
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
10
0.29
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
0.12
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
50
38.57
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1329
38.83
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
77
2.25
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
9
6.94
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
150
4.38
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
6.94
6.94
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.38
4.38
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
11
0.32
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
6
0.18
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.371
1.371
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.438
1.438
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
41
31.63
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1182
34.54
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
3
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.68
0.68
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.231
0.231
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.306
0.306
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
38.57
38.57
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
38.83
38.83

Fielding Stats for Bill Forman and Joe Grzenda

Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
2
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8
8
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
2.25
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
219
6.4
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
1.5
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3
0.09
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
36
27
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
924
27
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
12
9
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
308
9
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
6
0.18
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
7
5.25
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
66
1.93
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.75
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
8
6
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
72
2.1
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
7
5.25
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
72
2.1
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
87.5
87.5
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.333
2.333
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.329
0.329
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
66.67
66.67
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.37
1.37
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.75
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3
0.09
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bill Forman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Bill Forman and Joe Grzenda

Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
2
2
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
8
8
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
3
450
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
219
3864.71
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
4
600
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
34
600
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
3
450
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
30
529.41
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.333
0.333
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0.067
0.067
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.875
0.875
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0.265
0.265
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
150
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
2
35.29
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
150
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
2
35.29
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.66
99.33
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0.26
4.66
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
150
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
2
35.29
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
300
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
4
70.59
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.5
0.5
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0.125
0.125
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.333
0.333
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0.067
0.067
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.833
0.833
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0.192
0.192
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.308
0.308
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0.073
0.073
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0.143
0.143
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.5
0.5
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0.182
0.182
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
300
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
1
17.65
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
17.65
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
300
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
2
35.29
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.75
112.5
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
-1.14
-20.16
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
150
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
2
35.29
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
150
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
19
335.29
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
4
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
1.79
1.79
Bill Forman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0.11
0.11
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
35.29
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bill Forman
Career
Per 600 PA
Joe Grzenda
Career
Per 600 PA