Whitey Ford vs. Horace Helmbold — Career Comparison

Whitey Ford
Silent GenerationNew YorkThrows LeftBats LeftNorth AmericaNew York YankeesAmerican LeagueHall of FameStarting PitcherCy Young AwardAll-Star
Horace Helmbold
Pre-GenerationalPennsylvaniaNorth AmericaPhiladelphia AthleticsAmerican AssociationRelief Pitcher

Whitey Ford built a career as a starting pitcher and Horace Helmbold as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Whitey Ford posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 2.75 and WHIP 1.229 compared to 14.14 and 3.286 for Horace Helmbold. By the career numbers, Whitey Ford had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Whitey Ford and Horace Helmbold

Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
16
16
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
1
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
498
1.41
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
1.29
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
438
1.24
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
1.29
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
236
0.67
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
106
0.3
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
1.29
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
69.01
69.01
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Innings
87.95
87.95
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
156
0.44
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
1.29
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
45
0.13
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
10
0.03
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
967
2.75
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
11
14.14
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.75
2.75
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
14.14
14.14
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.03
3.03
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
14.46
14.46
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.76
3.76
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.71
4.71
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.232
0.232
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.447
0.447
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
9511
27
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
21
27
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3170.1
9
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
7
9
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2766
7.85
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
17
21.86
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7.85
7.85
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
21.86
21.86
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Innings
228
0.65
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.65
0.65
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.46
0.46
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1086
3.08
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6
7.71
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Innings
44
0.12
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.08
3.08
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
7.71
7.71
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1956
5.55
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
3.86
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5.55
5.55
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.86
3.86
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.93
3.93
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
3
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.96
0.96
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.286
1.286
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
75
0.21
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
1.29
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Innings
28
0.08
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.01
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
13036
37.01
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
44
56.57
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
35
0.1
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1107
3.14
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
15
19.29
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.14
3.14
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
19.29
19.29
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.215
1.215
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.286
3.286
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
11922
33.84
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
38
48.86
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.22
2.22
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
15
15
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.261
0.261
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.486
0.486
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Innings
37.01
37.01
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
56.57
56.57

Fielding Stats for Whitey Ford and Horace Helmbold

Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
16
16
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
1
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
498
1.57
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
1.29
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
396
1.25
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8554
27
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
21
27
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2851.1
9
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
7
9
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
173
0.55
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
1.29
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
630
1.99
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
2.57
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
33
0.1
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
1.29
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
836
2.64
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
5.14
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
803
2.53
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
3.86
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
96.05
96.05
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
75
75
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.612
1.612
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
3
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
79.52
79.52
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
49
0.15
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Whitey Ford and Horace Helmbold

Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
16
16
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
1
1
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
500
248.34
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
1
200
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
1208
600
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
3
600
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
1023
508.11
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PAverified
3
600
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.173
0.173
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.519
0.519
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0.3
0.3
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
177
87.91
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
155
76.99
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
19
9.44
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
1.49
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
22
10.93
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.124
0.124
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.003
0.003
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.017
0.017
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
56.22
27.92
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
205
101.82
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
293
145.53
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.256
0.256
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.2
0.2
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.457
0.457
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.027
0.027
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.165
0.165
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.378
0.378
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0.333
0.333
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.218
0.218
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
91
45.2
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
200
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
69
34.27
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
157
77.98
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
200
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
59.79
29.7
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
-0.17
-33.76
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
1.49
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
113
56.13
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 600 PA
224
111.26
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
5.39
5.39
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.5
0.5
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
65
32.28
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
1.99
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 600 PA
10
4.97
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
3
1.49
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
200
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
0.99
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Whitey Ford
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
5
2.48
Horace Helmbold
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
200
Whitey Ford
Career
Per 600 PA
60
60
Horace Helmbold
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
100
100