Wes Flowers vs. Andrew Messenger — Career Comparison

Wes Flowers
Greatest GenerationArkansasThrows LeftBats LeftNorth AmericaBrooklyn DodgersNational LeagueRelief Pitcher
Andrew Messenger
Lost GenerationMichiganThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaCleveland GuardiansAmerican LeagueStarting Pitcher

Andrew Messenger built a career as a starting pitcher and Wes Flowers as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Andrew Messenger posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 4.32 and WHIP 1.680 compared to 5.4 and 1.878 for Wes Flowers. By the career numbers, Andrew Messenger had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Wes Flowers and Andrew Messenger

Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
2
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
1
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
14
3.29
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
1.8
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3
0.7
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.72
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.47
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.72
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.47
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
50
50
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
21.43
21.43
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
40
40
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.36
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
23
5.4
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
12
4.32
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.4
5.4
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.32
4.32
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
7.19
7.19
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5.92
5.92
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
6.23
6.23
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
6.44
6.44
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.303
0.303
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.28
0.28
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
115
27
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
75
27
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
38.1
9
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
25
9
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
49
11.5
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
28
10.08
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
11.5
11.5
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
10.08
10.08
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
1.17
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
4
1.44
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.17
1.17
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.44
1.44
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.36
0.36
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.8
0.8
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
23
5.4
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
14
5.04
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.4
5.4
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5.04
5.04
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
11
2.58
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
1.44
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.58
2.58
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.44
1.44
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.79
0.79
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.8
0.8
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.887
0.887
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.72
0.72
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.23
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.36
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
0.94
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
189
44.37
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
114
41.04
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3
0.7
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.72
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
27
6.34
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
13
4.68
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
6.34
6.34
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.68
4.68
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.878
1.878
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.68
1.68
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
162
38.03
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
100
36
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.93
1.93
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.6
2.6
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.301
0.301
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.261
0.261
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
44.37
44.37
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
41.04
41.04

Fielding Stats for Wes Flowers and Andrew Messenger

Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
14
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
6
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
9
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
6
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
9
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
6
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
100
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
100
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.643
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1.2
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 9 Innings
0

Hitting Stats for Wes Flowers and Andrew Messenger

Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
2
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
1
1
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
14
840
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
5
300
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
10
600
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
10
600
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
10
600
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
8
480
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.4
0.4
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.125
0.125
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.8
0.8
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.5
0.5
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
240
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
1
60
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
240
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
60
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
60
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1.48
88.74
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.26
15.41
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
240
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
2
120
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
240
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
1
60
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.4
0.4
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.125
0.125
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.4
0.4
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.25
0.25
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.8
0.8
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.375
0.375
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.125
0.125
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.28
0.28
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.119
0.119
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.667
0.667
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.286
0.286
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.4
0.4
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.167
0.167
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
60
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
120
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
1
60
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
120
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1.89
113.33
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0.05
3.23
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Wes Flowers
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
2
120
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
5
5
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
120
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Wes Flowers
Career
Per 600 PA
Andrew Messenger
Career
Per 600 PA