Dock Ellis vs. Ken Forsch — Career Comparison

Dock Ellis
Silent GenerationCaliforniaThrows RightBats SwitchNorth AmericaPittsburgh PiratesNational LeagueStarting PitcherAll-Star
Ken Forsch
Baby BoomersCaliforniaThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaHouston AstrosAmerican LeagueStarting PitcherAll-Star

The numbers give Ken Forsch a clear advantage over Dock Ellis across the core pitching metrics. Ken Forsch led in walk avoidance (BB%+ 128 vs 100), run prevention (ERA+ 107 vs 96), and strikeout rate (K%+ 81 vs 70). Dock Ellis held the edge in home run suppression (HR9+ 106 vs 92). Ken Forsch was the better starter — the numbers make that case clearly.

Pitching Stats for Dock Ellis and Ken Forsch

Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
12
12
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
16
16
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
345
1.46
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
521
2.2
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
317
1.34
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
241
1.02
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
138
0.58
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
114
0.48
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
119
0.5
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
113
0.48
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
53.7
53.7
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
50.22
50.22
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
91.88
91.88
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
46.26
46.26
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
71
0.3
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
70
0.3
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
14
0.06
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
18
0.08
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
51
0.22
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
817
3.46
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
796
3.37
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.46
3.46
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.37
3.37
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.4
3.4
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.33
3.33
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.8
3.8
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.86
3.86
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.254
0.254
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.257
0.257
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6383
27
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
6382
27
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2127.2
9
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
2127.1
9
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2067
8.74
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
2071
8.76
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8.74
8.74
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
8.76
8.76
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
140
0.59
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
155
0.66
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.59
0.59
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.66
0.66
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.41
0.41
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.3
0.3
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
674
2.85
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
586
2.48
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
66
0.28
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
68
0.29
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.85
2.85
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.48
2.48
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1136
4.81
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
1047
4.43
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.81
4.81
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.43
4.43
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.29
3.29
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.01
2.01
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.851
0.851
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.768
0.768
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
45
0.19
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
43
0.18
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
44
0.19
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
47
0.2
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
9
0.04
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7
0.03
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8978
37.98
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
8852
37.45
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
10
0.04
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
177
0.75
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
958
4.05
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
881
3.73
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.05
4.05
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.73
3.73
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
69
0.29
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
90
0.38
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
62
0.26
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
56
0.24
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
100
0.42
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
162
0.69
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.288
1.288
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.249
1.249
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8129
34.39
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
8073
34.15
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.78
2.78
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.69
1.69
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.281
0.281
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.279
0.279
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
37.98
37.98
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
37.45
37.45

Fielding Stats for Dock Ellis and Ken Forsch

Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
12
12
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
16
16
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
345
1.46
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
521
2.21
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
317
1.34
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
241
1.02
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6385
27
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
6379
27
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2128.1
9
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
2126.1
9
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
173
0.73
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
134
0.57
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
287
1.21
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
305
1.29
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
23
0.1
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
26
0.11
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
483
2.04
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
465
1.97
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
460
1.95
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
439
1.86
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
95.24
95.24
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
94.41
94.41
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.333
1.333
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.843
0.843
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
91.88
91.88
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
46.26
46.26
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
26
0.11
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
24
0.1
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Dock Ellis and Ken Forsch

Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
12
12
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
16
16
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
388
415.71
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
521
713.7
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
560
600
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
438
600
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
489
523.93
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PAverified
383
524.66
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
0.133
0.133
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.136
0.136
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
0.396
0.396
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.397
0.397
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
65
69.64
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PAverified
52
71.23
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
61
65.36
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
46
63.01
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
4
4.29
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
6
8.22
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
4
4.29
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
6
8.22
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
0.062
0.062
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.115
0.115
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
12.53
13.42
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
9.58
13.13
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
69
73.93
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PAverified
58
79.45
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
92
98.57
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
68
93.15
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.178
0.178
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.17
0.17
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
0.141
0.141
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.151
0.151
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
0.319
0.319
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.322
0.322
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
0.008
0.008
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.016
0.016
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.116
0.116
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.115
0.115
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.234
0.234
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.225
0.225
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
0.226
0.226
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.236
0.236
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
42
45
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
16
21.92
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
23
24.64
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
17
23.29
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
65
69.64
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
33
45.21
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3.92
4.2
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
2.06
2.82
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
27
28.93
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
16
21.92
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PAverified
201
215.36
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
163
223.29
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2.79
2.79
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
2.69
2.69
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.13
0.13
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.1
0.1
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
44
47.14
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PAverified
39
53.42
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PAverified
3
3.21
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
3
4.11
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
4.29
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
1
1.37
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dock Ellis
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
4.29
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
1
1.37
Dock Ellis
Career
Per 600 PA
100
100
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
100
100