Dave Downs vs. Joe Vance — Career Comparison

Dave Downs
Baby BoomersUtahThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaPhiladelphia PhilliesNational LeagueStarting Pitcher
Joe Vance
Greatest GenerationTexasThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaChicago White SoxAmerican LeagueRelief Pitcher

Dave Downs built a career as a starting pitcher and Joe Vance as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Dave Downs posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 2.74 and WHIP 1.217 compared to 5.81 and 1.762 for Joe Vance. By the career numbers, Dave Downs had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Dave Downs and Joe Vance

Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
1
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
3
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
1.57
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
15
2.35
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
1.57
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
0.47
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.39
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
0.47
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
0.39
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.31
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
50
50
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
60
60
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
20
20
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.39
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.39
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7
2.74
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
37
5.81
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.74
2.74
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.81
5.81
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.6
3.6
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.81
5.81
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.65
3.65
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.32
5.32
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.294
0.294
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.291
0.291
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
69
27
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
172
27
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
23
9
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
57.1
9
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
25
9.78
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
67
10.52
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
9.78
9.78
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
10.52
10.52
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.39
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.78
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.39
0.39
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.78
0.78
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.25
0.25
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.33
0.33
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
1.17
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
34
5.34
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.17
1.17
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.34
5.34
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
1.96
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
17
2.67
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.96
1.96
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.67
2.67
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.25
1.25
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.13
1.13
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.348
0.348
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.89
0.89
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2
0.78
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
0.47
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.39
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.39
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
89
34.83
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
264
41.44
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
9
1.41
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7
2.74
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
40
6.28
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.74
2.74
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
6.28
6.28
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.217
1.217
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.762
1.762
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
85
33.26
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
230
36.1
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.75
1.75
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.67
2.67
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.304
0.304
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.298
0.298
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
34.83
34.83
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
41.44
41.44

Fielding Stats for Dave Downs and Joe Vance

Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
1
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
1.57
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
15
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
1.57
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
69
27
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
23
9
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
4
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
1.96
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
16
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
1.96
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
21
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
1.96
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
20
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
95.24
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.25
1.25
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1.333
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 9 Innings
0

Hitting Stats for Dave Downs and Joe Vance

Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
1
1
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
3
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
4
300
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
16
480
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
8
600
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
20
600
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
8
600
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
20
600
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.25
0.25
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0.25
0.25
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.5
0.5
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.6
0.6
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
2
150
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
5
150
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
150
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
3
90
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
60
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
60
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.4
0.4
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.45
34.02
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1.66
49.91
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
2
150
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
7
210
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
2
150
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
5
150
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.25
0.25
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0.25
0.25
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.25
0.25
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.35
0.35
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.5
0.5
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.6
0.6
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.1
0.1
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.175
0.175
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.2
0.2
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.333
0.333
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.467
0.467
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.5
0.5
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0.333
0.333
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
1
75
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
90
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
150
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
2
60
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PAverified
3
225
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
5
150
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.56
41.68
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1.71
51.22
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
4
300
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PAverified
5
150
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
2
2
Joe Vance
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
4
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
Joe Vance
Career
Per 600 PA