Dave Downs vs. Harry Shuman — Career Comparison

Dave Downs
Baby BoomersUtahThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaPhiladelphia PhilliesNational LeagueStarting Pitcher
Harry Shuman
Greatest GenerationPennsylvaniaThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaPhiladelphia PhilliesNational LeagueRelief Pitcher

Dave Downs built a career as a starting pitcher and Harry Shuman as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Dave Downs posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 2.74 and WHIP 1.217 compared to 4.44 and 1.500 for Harry Shuman. By the career numbers, Dave Downs had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Dave Downs and Harry Shuman

Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
1
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
3
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
1.57
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
30
5.33
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
1.57
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.39
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.39
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
50
50
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.39
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.39
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7
2.74
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
25
4.44
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.74
2.74
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.44
4.44
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.6
3.6
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.16
4.16
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.65
3.65
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.16
4.16
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.294
0.294
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.273
0.273
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
69
27
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
152
27
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
23
9
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
50.2
9
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
25
9.78
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
56
9.95
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
9.78
9.78
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
9.95
9.95
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.39
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.18
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.39
0.39
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.18
0.18
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.25
0.25
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.03
0.03
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
1.17
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
20
3.55
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.17
1.17
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.55
3.55
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
1.96
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
10
1.78
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.96
1.96
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.78
1.78
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.25
1.25
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.33
0.33
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.348
0.348
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.592
0.592
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.78
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.18
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
0.39
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.36
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.39
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
89
34.83
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
227
40.32
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
19
3.38
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7
2.74
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
35
6.22
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.74
2.74
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
6.22
6.22
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.217
1.217
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.5
1.5
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
85
33.26
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
205
36.41
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.75
1.75
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.17
1.17
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.304
0.304
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.284
0.284
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
34.83
34.83
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
40.32
40.32

Fielding Stats for Dave Downs and Harry Shuman

Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
1
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
1.57
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
30
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
1.57
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
69
27
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
23
9
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
1.96
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
15
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
1.96
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
18
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
1.96
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
15
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
83.33
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.25
1.25
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.5
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0

Hitting Stats for Dave Downs and Harry Shuman

Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
1
1
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
3
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
4
300
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
30
6000
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
8
600
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
3
600
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
8
600
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
3
600
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.25
0.25
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.5
0.5
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
150
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
150
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.45
34.02
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
150
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
150
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.25
0.25
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.25
0.25
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.5
0.5
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.175
0.175
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.333
0.333
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.5
0.5
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
75
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
150
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
225
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.56
41.68
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
-0.32
-64.27
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PAverified
4
300
Harry Shuman
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
2
400
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
2
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
1.5
1.5
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
Harry Shuman
Career
Per 600 PA