Dave Downs vs. Brandon Lyon — Career Comparison

Baby BoomersUtahThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaPhiladelphia PhilliesNational LeagueStarting Pitcher
Gen XUtahThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaArizona DiamondbacksNational LeagueRelief Pitcher

Dave Downs built a career as a starting pitcher and Brandon Lyon as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Dave Downs posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 2.74 and WHIP 1.217 compared to 4.16 and 1.450 for Brandon Lyon. By the career numbers, Dave Downs had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Dave Downs and Brandon Lyon

Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
1
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
12
12
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
1.57
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
572
7.56
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
1.57
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
21
0.28
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.39
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
42
0.55
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.39
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
47
0.62
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
50
50
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
47.19
47.19
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.67
3.67
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.39
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.39
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
79
1.04
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7
2.74
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
315
4.16
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.74
2.74
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.16
4.16
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.6
3.6
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.07
4.07
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.65
3.65
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.99
3.99
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.294
0.294
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.271
0.271
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
69
27
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2044
27
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
23
9
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
681.1
9
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
25
9.78
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
721
9.52
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
9.78
9.78
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
9.52
9.52
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.39
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
69
0.91
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.39
0.39
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.91
0.91
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.25
0.25
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.12
0.12
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
1.17
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
220
2.91
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
47
0.62
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.17
1.17
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.91
2.91
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
1.96
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
465
6.14
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.96
1.96
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
6.14
6.14
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.25
1.25
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.81
0.81
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.348
0.348
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.005
1.005
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2
0.78
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
22
0.29
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
0.39
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
16
0.21
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
0.39
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
0.04
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
89
34.83
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2951
38.98
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
241
3.18
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7
2.74
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
338
4.46
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.74
2.74
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.46
4.46
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
31
0.41
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
26
0.34
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
49
0.65
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.217
1.217
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.381
1.381
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
85
33.26
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2658
35.11
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.75
1.75
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.59
0.59
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.304
0.304
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.307
0.307
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
34.83
34.83
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
38.98
38.98

Fielding Stats for Dave Downs and Brandon Lyon

Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
1
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
12
12
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
1.57
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
572
7.56
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
1.57
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
21
0.28
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
69
27
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2044
27
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
23
9
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
681.1
9
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
51
0.67
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
1.96
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
94
1.24
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
6
0.08
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
1.96
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
151
1.99
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
1.96
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
145
1.92
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
96.03
96.03
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.25
1.25
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.254
0.254
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.67
3.67
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
6
0.08
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Dave Downs and Brandon Lyon

Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
1
1
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
12
12
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
4
300
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
572
171600
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
8
600
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA
2
600
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
8
600
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA
1
300
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.25
0.25
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.5
0.5
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2.25
2.25
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
2
150
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
300
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
150
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
300
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
300
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.45
34.02
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
600
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
2
150
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
600
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
2
150
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
600
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.25
0.25
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.25
0.25
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
2
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.5
0.5
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
3
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.175
0.175
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.95
0.95
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.333
0.333
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.5
0.5
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
1
75
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
300
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
2
150
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
300
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
3
225
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
600
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.56
41.68
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1.21
364.4
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
300
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
4
300
Brandon Lyon
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
2
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
Brandon Lyon
Career
Per 600 PA