Dave Downs vs. Con Lucid — Career Comparison

Dave Downs
Baby BoomersUtahThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaPhiladelphia PhilliesNational LeagueStarting Pitcher
Con Lucid
Pre-GenerationalIrelandEuropeBrooklyn DodgersNational LeagueRelief Pitcher

Dave Downs built a career as a starting pitcher and Con Lucid as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Dave Downs posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 2.74 and WHIP 1.217 compared to 6.02 and 1.829 for Con Lucid. By the career numbers, Dave Downs had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Dave Downs and Con Lucid

Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
1
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
5
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
1.57
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
54
1.3
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
1.57
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
50
1.2
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.39
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
23
0.55
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.39
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
23
0.55
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
50
50
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
50
50
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
92.59
92.59
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.39
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
36
0.86
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.39
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3
0.07
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7
2.74
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
251
6.02
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.74
2.74
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
6.02
6.02
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.6
3.6
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
6.16
6.16
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.65
3.65
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.03
5.03
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.294
0.294
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.308
0.308
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
69
27
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1125
27
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
23
9
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
375
9
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
25
9.78
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
482
11.57
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
9.78
9.78
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
11.57
11.57
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
0.39
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
15
0.36
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.39
0.39
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.36
0.36
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.25
0.25
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.28
0.28
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
1.17
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
204
4.9
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.17
1.17
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.9
4.9
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
1.96
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
65
1.56
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.96
1.96
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.56
1.56
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.25
1.25
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.2
1.2
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.348
0.348
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.717
0.717
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2
0.78
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
13
0.31
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.39
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
28
0.67
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.39
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
89
34.83
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1798
43.15
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
0.1
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7
2.74
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
340
8.16
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.74
2.74
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
8.16
8.16
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.217
1.217
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.829
1.829
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
85
33.26
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1566
37.58
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.75
1.75
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
6.3
6.3
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.304
0.304
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.314
0.314
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
34.83
34.83
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
43.15
43.15

Fielding Stats for Dave Downs and Con Lucid

Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
1
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
5
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
1.57
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
54
1.3
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
1.57
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
69
27
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1125
27
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
23
9
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
375
9
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
16
0.38
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
1.96
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
60
1.44
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
12
0.29
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
1.96
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
88
2.11
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
1.96
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
76
1.82
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
86.36
86.36
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.25
1.25
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.407
1.407
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
0.07
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Con Lucid
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Dave Downs and Con Lucid

Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
1
1
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
5
5
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PAverified
4
300
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
54
189.47
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
8
600
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
171
600
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PAverified
8
600
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
151
529.82
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.25
0.25
Con Lucid
Career
Per 600 PA
0.238
0.238
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.5
0.5
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.66
0.66
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
150
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
36
126.32
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
150
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
28
98.25
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
14.04
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
14.04
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Con Lucid
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
8
28.07
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.222
0.222
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Con Lucid
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Con Lucid
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.45
34.02
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
16.39
57.49
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
2
150
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
48
168.42
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
2
150
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
52
182.46
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.25
0.25
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.311
0.311
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.25
0.25
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.318
0.318
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.5
0.5
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.629
0.629
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.08
0.08
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.175
0.175
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.22
0.22
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.333
0.333
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.565
0.565
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.5
0.5
Con Lucid
Career
Per 600 PA
0.284
0.284
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
1
75
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
29
101.75
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
150
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
17
59.65
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PAverified
3
225
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
46
161.4
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0.56
41.68
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
18.25
64.05
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
7.02
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
14
49.12
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Con Lucid
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
4
300
Con Lucid
Career
Per 600 PAverified
24
84.21
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
2
2
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
7.13
7.13
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.58
0.58
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
14.04
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Con Lucid
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Con Lucid
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
3.51
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Con Lucid
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
3.51
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
Con Lucid
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
100
100