Joe Conzelman vs. Dave Downs — Career Comparison

Joe Conzelman
Lost GenerationConnecticutThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaPittsburgh PiratesNational LeagueRelief Pitcher
Dave Downs
Baby BoomersUtahThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaPhiladelphia PhilliesNational LeagueStarting Pitcher

Dave Downs built a career as a starting pitcher and Joe Conzelman as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Dave Downs posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 2.74 and WHIP 1.217 compared to 2.92 and 1.267 for Joe Conzelman. By the career numbers, Dave Downs had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Joe Conzelman and Dave Downs

Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
3
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
1
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
54
2.98
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
1.57
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
12
0.66
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
1.57
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6
0.33
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.39
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
8
0.44
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.39
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
42.86
42.86
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
50
50
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
22.22
22.22
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
5
0.28
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.39
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.06
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.39
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.11
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
53
2.92
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7
2.74
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.92
2.92
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.74
2.74
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.06
3.06
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.6
3.6
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.62
3.62
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.65
3.65
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.24
0.24
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.294
0.294
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
490
27
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
69
27
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
163.1
9
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
23
9
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
142
7.82
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
25
9.78
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7.82
7.82
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
9.78
9.78
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.11
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
0.39
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.11
0.11
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.39
0.39
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.04
0.04
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.25
0.25
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
65
3.58
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
1.17
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.58
3.58
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.17
1.17
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
70
3.86
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
1.96
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.86
3.86
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.96
1.96
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.3
1.3
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.25
1.25
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.827
0.827
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.348
0.348
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
0.17
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2
0.78
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
7
0.39
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
0.39
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.39
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
663
36.53
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
89
34.83
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
29
1.6
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
61
3.36
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7
2.74
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.36
3.36
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.74
2.74
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.267
1.267
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.217
1.217
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
591
32.57
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
85
33.26
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.13
1.13
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.75
1.75
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.27
0.27
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.304
0.304
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
36.53
36.53
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
34.83
34.83

Fielding Stats for Joe Conzelman and Dave Downs

Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
1
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
54
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
1.57
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
1.57
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
69
27
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
23
9
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
4
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
53
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
1.96
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
58
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
1.96
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
57
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
1.96
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
98.28
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.056
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.25
1.25
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
100
100
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Joe Conzelman and Dave Downs

Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
3
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
1
1
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
54
771.43
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
4
300
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
42
600
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
8
600
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
42
600
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
8
600
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.095
0.095
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.25
0.25
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.191
0.191
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.5
0.5
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
4
57.14
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
150
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
4
57.14
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
150
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.34
4.84
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.45
34.02
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
4
57.14
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
150
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
4
57.14
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
150
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.095
0.095
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.25
0.25
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.095
0.095
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.25
0.25
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.19
0.19
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.5
0.5
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.067
0.067
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.175
0.175
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.105
0.105
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.333
0.333
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.143
0.143
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.5
0.5
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
1
14.29
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
75
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
1
14.29
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
150
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
2
28.57
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
225
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
-1.64
-23.37
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.56
41.68
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PAverified
14
200
Dave Downs
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
4
300
Joe Conzelman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
3
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
2
2
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Conzelman
Career
Per 600 PA
Dave Downs
Career
Per 600 PA