Al Cicotte vs. Thornton Lee — Career Comparison

Al Cicotte
Silent GenerationMichiganThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaSt. Louis CardinalsNational LeagueRelief Pitcher
Thornton Lee
Greatest GenerationCaliforniaThrows LeftBats LeftNorth AmericaChicago White SoxAmerican LeagueStarting PitcherAll-Star

Thornton Lee built a career as a starting pitcher and Al Cicotte as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Thornton Lee posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 3.56 and WHIP 1.358 compared to 4.36 and 1.562 for Al Cicotte. By the career numbers, Thornton Lee had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Al Cicotte and Thornton Lee

Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
5
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
16
16
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
102
3.53
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
374
1.44
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
16
0.55
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
272
1.05
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
10
0.35
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
117
0.45
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
13
0.45
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
124
0.48
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
43.48
43.48
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
48.55
48.55
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
15.69
15.69
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
72.73
72.73
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
155
0.6
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
14
0.05
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
0.14
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
10
0.04
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
126
4.36
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
921
3.56
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.36
4.36
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.56
3.56
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.99
4.99
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.64
3.64
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.78
4.78
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
4
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.276
0.276
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.255
0.255
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
780
27
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6994
27
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
260
9
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2331.1
9
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
280
9.69
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2327
8.98
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
9.69
9.69
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8.98
8.98
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
30
1.04
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
121
0.47
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.04
1.04
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.47
0.47
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.29
0.29
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.32
0.32
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
119
4.12
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
838
3.24
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
7
0.24
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.12
4.12
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.24
3.24
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
149
5.16
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
937
3.62
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5.16
5.16
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.62
3.62
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.46
1.46
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.51
2.51
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.031
1.031
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.761
0.761
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
11
0.38
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
24
0.09
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
5
0.17
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
43
0.17
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
7
0.03
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1138
39.39
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
9999
38.6
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
42
1.45
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
50
0.19
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
142
4.92
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1105
4.27
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.92
4.92
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.27
4.27
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.535
1.535
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.358
1.358
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
1014
35.1
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
9118
35.2
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.39
1.39
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.95
2.95
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.299
0.299
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.274
0.274
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
39.39
39.39
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
38.6
38.6

Fielding Stats for Al Cicotte and Thornton Lee

Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
5
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
16
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
102
3.53
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
374
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
16
0.55
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
781
27
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
260.1
9
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
23
0.8
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
67
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
45
1.56
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
428
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2
0.07
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
38
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
70
2.42
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
533
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
68
2.35
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
495
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
97.14
97.14
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
92.87
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.667
0.667
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1.324
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
15.69
15.69
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.03
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
21
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 9 Innings
0

Hitting Stats for Al Cicotte and Thornton Lee

Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
5
5
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
16
16
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PAverified
104
854.79
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
375
254.24
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
73
600
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
885
600
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PAverified
71
583.56
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
835
566.1
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.211
0.211
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.2
0.2
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0.473
0.473
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.499
0.499
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PAverified
15
123.29
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
167
113.22
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PAverified
13
106.85
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
135
91.53
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
16.44
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
24
16.27
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
2.71
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4
2.71
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
2
16.44
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
32
21.69
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0.133
0.133
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.192
0.192
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.005
0.005
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.024
0.024
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
2.96
24.37
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
43.79
29.69
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
17
139.73
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
211
143.05
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
16
131.51
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
195
132.2
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0.222
0.222
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.226
0.226
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0.239
0.239
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.253
0.253
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0.462
0.462
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.479
0.479
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0.028
0.028
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.053
0.053
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0.16
0.16
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.165
0.165
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0.305
0.305
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.346
0.346
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.283
0.283
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0.262
0.262
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
3
24.66
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
63
42.71
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
2
16.44
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
66
44.75
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
5
41.1
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
125
84.75
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
2.67
21.98
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
40.01
27.13
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
8.22
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
1
0.68
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
27
18.31
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
18
147.95
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PAverified
208
141.02
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
4.06
4.06
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4.25
4.25
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.13
0.13
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
1
8.22
Thornton Lee
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
22
14.92
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
3
24.66
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PAverified
23
15.59
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
Thornton Lee
Career
Per 600 PA