Al Cicotte vs. Shang Johnson — Career Comparison

Al Cicotte
Silent GenerationMichiganThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaSt. Louis CardinalsNational LeagueRelief Pitcher
Shang Johnson
Lost GenerationAlabamaThrows RightNorth AmericaAtlantic City Bacharach GiantsEastern Colored League (Independent)Starting Pitcher

Shang Johnson built a career as a starting pitcher and Al Cicotte as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Shang Johnson posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 4.18 and WHIP 1.347 compared to 4.36 and 1.562 for Al Cicotte. By the career numbers, Shang Johnson had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Al Cicotte and Shang Johnson

Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
5
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
5
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
102
3.53
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
17
1.73
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
16
0.55
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
8
0.82
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
10
0.35
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
0.31
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
13
0.45
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.2
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
43.48
43.48
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
60
60
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
15.69
15.69
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
47.06
47.06
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
0.41
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
0.14
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
126
4.36
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
41
4.18
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.36
4.36
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.18
4.18
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.99
4.99
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.79
3.79
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.78
4.78
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.42
3.42
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.276
0.276
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.298
0.298
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
780
27
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
265
27
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
260
9
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
88.1
9
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
280
9.69
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
90
9.17
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
9.69
9.69
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
9.17
9.17
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
30
1.04
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.2
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.04
1.04
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.2
0.2
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.29
0.29
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.12
0.12
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
119
4.12
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
29
2.95
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
7
0.24
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.12
4.12
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.95
2.95
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
149
5.16
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
38
3.87
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5.16
5.16
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.87
3.87
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.46
1.46
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.24
2.24
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.031
1.031
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.759
0.759
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
11
0.38
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.17
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1138
39.39
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
339
34.54
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
42
1.45
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.51
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
142
4.92
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
56
5.71
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.92
4.92
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.71
5.71
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
8
0.82
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.2
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.535
1.535
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.347
1.347
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1014
35.1
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
302
30.77
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.39
1.39
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.29
3.29
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.299
0.299
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.336
0.336
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
39.39
39.39
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
34.54
34.54

Fielding Stats for Al Cicotte and Shang Johnson

Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
5
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
5
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
102
3.53
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
18
2.02
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
16
0.55
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
0.45
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
781
27
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
241
27
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
260.1
9
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
80.1
9
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
23
0.8
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
45
1.56
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
18
2.02
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.07
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.22
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
70
2.42
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
20
2.24
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
68
2.35
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
18
2.02
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
97.14
97.14
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
90
90
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.667
0.667
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
1
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
15.69
15.69
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
22.22
22.22
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0.03
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Al Cicotte and Shang Johnson

Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
5
5
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
5
5
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
104
854.79
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
21
293.02
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
73
600
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
43
600
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
71
583.56
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
37
516.28
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0.211
0.211
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.27
0.27
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0.473
0.473
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.64
0.64
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
15
123.29
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PAverified
10
139.53
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
13
106.85
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PAverified
10
139.53
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
16.44
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
16.44
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.133
0.133
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
2.96
24.37
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3.29
45.84
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
17
139.73
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
10
139.53
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
16
131.51
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PAverified
13
181.4
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0.222
0.222
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.325
0.325
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0.239
0.239
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.27
0.27
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0.462
0.462
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.595
0.595
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.028
0.028
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0.16
0.16
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.214
0.214
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0.305
0.305
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.482
0.482
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.283
0.283
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.27
0.27
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
3
24.66
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
27.91
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
16.44
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
1
13.95
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
5
41.1
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PAverified
3
41.86
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
2.67
21.98
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4.49
62.66
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
8.22
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
41.86
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
18
147.95
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Al Cicotte
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4.06
4.06
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
1
8.22
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
41.86
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
3
24.66
Shang Johnson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Al Cicotte
Career
Per 600 PA
Shang Johnson
Career
Per 600 PA