Don Carman vs. Jon Lieber — Career Comparison

Don Carman
Baby BoomersOklahomaThrows LeftBats LeftNorth AmericaPhiladelphia PhilliesNational LeagueStarting Pitcher
Jon Lieber
Gen XIowaThrows RightBats LeftNorth AmericaPittsburgh PiratesNational LeagueStarting PitcherAll-Star

The numbers give Jon Lieber a clear advantage over Don Carman across the core pitching metrics. Jon Lieber led in walk avoidance (BB%+ 177 vs 90), skill-based run prevention (DICE+ 103 vs 87), and run prevention (ERA+ 104 vs 91). Jon Lieber was the better starter — the numbers make that case clearly.

Pitching Stats for Don Carman and Jon Lieber

Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
10
10
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
14
14
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
342
3.34
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
401
1.64
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
102
1
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
327
1.34
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
53
0.52
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
131
0.54
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
54
0.53
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
124
0.51
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
49.53
49.53
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
51.37
51.37
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
29.82
29.82
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
81.55
81.55
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
7
0.07
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
25
0.1
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
0.03
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
5
0.02
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
11
0.11
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.01
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
421
4.11
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
1043
4.27
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.11
4.11
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.27
4.27
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.87
3.87
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.97
3.97
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.63
4.63
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.92
3.92
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.245
0.245
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.276
0.276
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
2765
27
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6594
27
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
921.2
9
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2198
9
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
849
8.29
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
2388
9.78
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8.29
8.29
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
9.78
9.78
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
115
1.12
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
285
1.17
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.12
1.12
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.17
1.17
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.34
0.34
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.71
0.71
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
378
3.69
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
422
1.73
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
45
0.44
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
52
0.21
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.69
3.69
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.73
1.73
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
598
5.84
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1553
6.36
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.84
5.84
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
6.36
6.36
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.75
1.75
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.87
3.87
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.059
1.059
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.899
0.899
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
36
0.35
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
30
0.12
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
22
0.21
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
49
0.2
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
10
0.1
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
13
0.05
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
3936
38.43
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
9300
38.08
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
83
0.81
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
18
0.07
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
462
4.51
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
1158
4.74
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4.51
4.51
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.74
4.74
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
44
0.43
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
93
0.38
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
31
0.3
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
76
0.31
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
43
0.42
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
164
0.67
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.331
1.331
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.278
1.278
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
3461
33.8
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8660
35.46
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.35
1.35
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.89
2.89
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.267
0.267
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.308
0.308
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
38.43
38.43
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
38.08
38.08

Fielding Stats for Don Carman and Jon Lieber

Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
10
10
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
14
14
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
342
3.34
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
401
1.64
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
102
1
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
327
1.34
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
2765
27
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6594
27
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
921.2
9
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2198
9
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
36
0.35
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
169
0.69
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
121
1.18
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
269
1.1
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
0.04
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
20
0.08
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
161
1.57
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
458
1.88
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
157
1.53
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
438
1.79
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
97.52
97.52
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
95.63
95.63
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.459
0.459
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.092
1.092
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
29.82
29.82
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
81.55
81.55
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
6
0.06
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
12
0.05
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Don Carman
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Don Carman and Jon Lieber

Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
10
10
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
14
14
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PAverified
342
858.58
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
405
347.64
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
239
600
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
699
600
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
209
524.69
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
612
525.32
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.057
0.057
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.139
0.139
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.229
0.229
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.413
0.413
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
12
30.13
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
85
72.96
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
12
30.13
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
68
58.37
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
17
14.59
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
17
14.59
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.2
0.2
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.33
0.82
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
15.38
13.21
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
12
30.13
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
102
87.55
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
14
35.15
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
115
98.71
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.066
0.066
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.179
0.179
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.057
0.057
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.167
0.167
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.124
0.124
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.345
0.345
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.028
0.028
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.044
0.044
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.122
0.122
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.069
0.069
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.241
0.241
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.09
0.09
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.224
0.224
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
3
7.53
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
36
30.9
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
5
12.55
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
25
21.46
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
8
20.08
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
61
52.36
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
-14.11
-35.42
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1.53
1.31
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
2
5.02
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
30
25.75
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
75
188.28
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 600 PA
234
200.86
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3.19
3.19
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 600 PA
2.99
2.99
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0.03
0.03
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.13
0.13
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PAverified
28
70.29
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
55
47.21
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Jon Lieber
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
1.72
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
5
12.55
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 600 PA
20
17.17
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
2.51
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Don Carman
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
2.51
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Don Carman
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Jon Lieber
Career
Per 600 PA