Joe Black vs. Ryan Madson — Career Comparison

Joe Black
Greatest GenerationNew JerseyThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaBrooklyn DodgersNational LeagueStarting PitcherRookie of the YearAll-Star
Ryan Madson
Gen XCaliforniaThrows RightBats LeftNorth AmericaPhiladelphia PhilliesNational LeagueRelief Pitcher

Joe Black built a career as a starting pitcher and Ryan Madson as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Ryan Madson posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 3.48 and WHIP 1.292 compared to 3.72 and 1.300 for Joe Black. By the career numbers, Ryan Madson had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Joe Black and Ryan Madson

Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
12
12
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
13
13
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
241
2.69
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
740
7.66
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
59
0.66
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
18
0.19
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
49
0.55
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
61
0.63
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
36
0.4
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
48
0.5
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
57.65
57.65
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
55.96
55.96
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
24.48
24.48
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.43
2.43
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
29
0.32
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.02
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
30
0.33
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
91
0.94
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
333
3.72
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
336
3.48
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.72
3.72
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.48
3.48
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.42
3.42
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.5
3.5
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.99
3.99
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.46
3.46
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.245
0.245
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.253
0.253
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
2418
27
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2609
27
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
806
9
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
869.2
9
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
760
8.49
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
830
8.59
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8.49
8.49
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
8.59
8.59
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
64
0.71
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
82
0.85
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.71
0.71
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.85
0.85
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.27
0.27
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.11
0.11
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
281
3.14
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
250
2.59
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7
0.08
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
44
0.46
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.14
3.14
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.59
2.59
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
454
5.07
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
775
8.02
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.07
5.07
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8.02
8.02
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.88
1.88
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.05
1.05
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.912
0.912
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.179
1.179
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
0.04
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
40
0.41
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
9
0.1
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
44
0.46
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
0.03
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.05
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
3426
38.26
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3631
37.58
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
115
1.28
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
236
2.44
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
399
4.46
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
358
3.7
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.46
4.46
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.7
3.7
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
30
0.33
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
36
0.37
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
24
0.25
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
35
0.39
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
80
0.83
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.292
1.292
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.242
1.242
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
3106
34.68
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3277
33.91
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.66
1.66
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.48
0.48
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.269
0.269
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.309
0.309
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
38.26
38.26
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
37.58
37.58

Fielding Stats for Joe Black and Ryan Madson

Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
12
12
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
13
13
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
243
3.63
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
740
7.66
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
56
0.84
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
18
0.19
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
1806
27
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2609
27
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
602
9
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
869.2
9
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
39
0.58
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
42
0.43
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
157
2.35
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
103
1.07
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
19
0.28
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2
0.02
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
215
3.21
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
147
1.52
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
196
2.93
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
145
1.5
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
91.16
91.16
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
98.64
98.64
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.807
0.807
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.196
0.196
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
23.05
23.05
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.43
2.43
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
10
0.15
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
6
0.06
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Joe Black
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Joe Black and Ryan Madson

Joe Black
Career
Per 600 PA
12
12
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
13
13
Joe Black
Career
Per 600 PA
248
572.31
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
740
7655.17
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
260
600
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
58
600
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
234
540
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
49
506.9
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.188
0.188
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.122
0.122
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.478
0.478
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.397
0.397
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
44
101.54
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
6
62.07
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
41
94.62
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
5
51.72
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
3
6.92
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
10.34
Joe Black
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Black
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
3
6.92
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
10.34
Joe Black
Career
Per 600 PA
0.068
0.068
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.167
0.167
Joe Black
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Black
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
10.58
24.42
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.81
8.37
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
47
108.46
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
7
72.41
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
57
131.54
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
8
82.76
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.231
0.231
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.157
0.157
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.201
0.201
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.143
0.143
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.432
0.432
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.3
0.3
Joe Black
Career
Per 600 PA
0.013
0.013
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.021
0.021
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.154
0.154
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.106
0.106
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.318
0.318
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.2
0.2
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.225
0.225
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.214
0.214
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
16
36.92
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
3
31.03
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
17
39.23
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
2
20.69
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
33
76.15
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
5
51.72
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
11.33
26.14
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
-0.71
-7.3
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3
6.92
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
10
23.08
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
2
20.69
Joe Black
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Black
Career
Per 600 PAverified
38
87.69
Ryan Madson
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
21
217.24
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
6.84
6.84
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
2.76
2.76
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.26
0.26
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0.1
0.1
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
13
30
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PAverified
7
72.41
Joe Black
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Black
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
4.62
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
2
20.69
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
2.31
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Black
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
2.31
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Joe Black
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
100
100
Ryan Madson
Career
Per 600 PA