Neil Allen vs. Addie Joss — Career Comparison

Neil Allen
Baby BoomersKansasThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaNew York MetsNational LeagueRelief Pitcher
Addie Joss
Pre-GenerationalWisconsinThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaCleveland GuardiansAmerican LeagueHall of FameStarting Pitcher

Addie Joss built a career as a starting pitcher and Neil Allen as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Addie Joss posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 1.89 and WHIP 0.968 compared to 3.88 and 1.487 for Neil Allen. By the career numbers, Addie Joss had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Neil Allen and Addie Joss

Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
11
11
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
9
9
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
434
3.95
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
286
1.11
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
59
0.54
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
260
1.01
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
58
0.53
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
160
0.62
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
70
0.64
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
97
0.38
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
45.31
45.31
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
62.26
62.26
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
13.59
13.59
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
90.91
90.91
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
7
0.06
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
234
0.91
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
6
0.05
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
45
0.17
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
75
0.68
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.02
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
426
3.88
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
488
1.89
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.88
3.88
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.89
1.89
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.91
3.91
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.84
1.84
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.02
4.02
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.86
2.86
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.264
0.264
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.223
0.223
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
2965
27
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6981
27
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
988.1
9
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2327
9
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
985
8.97
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1888
7.3
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
8.97
8.97
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7.3
7.3
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
73
0.66
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
19
0.07
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.66
0.66
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.07
0.07
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.17
0.17
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.07
0.07
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
417
3.8
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
364
1.41
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
68
0.62
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.8
3.8
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.41
1.41
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
611
5.56
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
920
3.56
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5.56
5.56
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.56
3.56
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.41
1.41
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.22
3.22
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.04
1.04
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.552
0.552
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
39
0.36
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
28
0.11
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
9
0.08
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
58
0.22
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
3
0.03
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
4248
38.68
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8891
34.39
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
222
2.02
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
22
0.09
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
464
4.23
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
730
2.82
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.23
4.23
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.82
2.82
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
54
0.49
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
37
0.34
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
86
0.78
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.419
1.419
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.968
0.968
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
3731
33.98
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8469
32.76
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.07
1.07
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.55
2.55
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.299
0.299
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.248
0.248
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
38.68
38.68
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
34.39
34.39

Fielding Stats for Neil Allen and Addie Joss

Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
11
11
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
9
9
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
434
3.95
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
295
1.12
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
59
0.54
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
204
0.77
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
2965
27
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
7134
27
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
988.1
9
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2378
9
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
75
0.68
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
185
0.7
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
120
1.09
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
848
3.21
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
0.04
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
36
0.14
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
199
1.81
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1069
4.05
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
195
1.78
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1033
3.91
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
97.99
97.99
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
96.63
96.63
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.449
0.449
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.502
3.502
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
13.59
13.59
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
69.15
69.15
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
0.04
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
24
0.09
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Neil Allen and Addie Joss

Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
11
11
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
9
9
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
434
2018.6
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
296
194.95
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
129
600
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
911
600
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
115
534.88
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
817
538.09
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.13
0.13
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.144
0.144
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.399
0.399
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.441
0.441
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
15
69.77
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
118
77.72
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
11
51.16
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
90
59.28
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
2
9.3
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
21
13.83
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
9.3
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
6
3.95
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
0.66
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
4
18.6
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
28
18.44
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.267
0.267
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0.237
0.237
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.001
0.001
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.009
0.009
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
3.34
15.53
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
34.95
23.02
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
21
97.67
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
154
101.43
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
18
83.72
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
173
113.94
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.153
0.153
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.198
0.198
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.183
0.183
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.189
0.189
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.335
0.335
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.387
0.387
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.052
0.052
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0.044
0.044
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.114
0.114
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.136
0.136
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.24
0.24
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.313
0.313
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.234
0.234
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0.225
0.225
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
3
13.95
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
46
30.3
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
7
32.56
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
51
33.59
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
10
46.51
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
96
63.23
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.83
3.88
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
23.55
15.51
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
0.66
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
3
13.95
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
54
35.57
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
51
237.21
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PAverified
297
195.61
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
2.53
2.53
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3.07
3.07
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.06
0.06
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.18
0.18
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
11
51.16
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
39
25.69
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
10
6.59
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
10
6.59
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
100
100