Neil Allen vs. Ken Forsch — Career Comparison

Neil Allen
Baby BoomersKansasThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaNew York MetsNational LeagueRelief Pitcher
Ken Forsch
Baby BoomersCaliforniaThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaHouston AstrosAmerican LeagueStarting PitcherAll-Star

Ken Forsch built a career as a starting pitcher and Neil Allen as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Ken Forsch led in walk avoidance (BB%+ 128 vs 94), run prevention (ERA+ 107 vs 92), and skill-based run prevention (DICE+ 97 vs 96). Neil Allen held the edge in home run suppression (HR9+ 120 vs 92). Role difference aside, Ken Forsch holds a clear edge on every meaningful shared measure.

Pitching Stats for Neil Allen and Ken Forsch

Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
11
11
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
16
16
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
434
3.95
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
521
2.2
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
59
0.54
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
241
1.02
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
58
0.53
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
114
0.48
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
70
0.64
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
113
0.48
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
45.31
45.31
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
50.22
50.22
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
13.59
13.59
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
46.26
46.26
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
7
0.06
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
70
0.3
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
6
0.05
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
18
0.08
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
75
0.68
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
51
0.22
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
426
3.88
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
796
3.37
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.88
3.88
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.37
3.37
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.91
3.91
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.33
3.33
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.02
4.02
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.86
3.86
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.264
0.264
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.257
0.257
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
2965
27
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6382
27
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
988.1
9
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2127.1
9
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
985
8.97
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2071
8.76
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
8.97
8.97
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8.76
8.76
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
73
0.66
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
155
0.66
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.66
0.66
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.66
0.66
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.17
0.17
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.3
0.3
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
417
3.8
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
586
2.48
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
68
0.62
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
68
0.29
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.8
3.8
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.48
2.48
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
611
5.56
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1047
4.43
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5.56
5.56
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.43
4.43
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.41
1.41
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.01
2.01
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.04
1.04
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.768
0.768
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
39
0.36
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
43
0.18
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
9
0.08
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
47
0.2
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
3
0.03
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
7
0.03
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
4248
38.68
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8852
37.45
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
222
2.02
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
177
0.75
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
464
4.23
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
881
3.73
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.23
4.23
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.73
3.73
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
54
0.49
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
90
0.38
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
37
0.34
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
56
0.24
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
86
0.78
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
162
0.69
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.419
1.419
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.249
1.249
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
3731
33.98
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8073
34.15
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.07
1.07
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.69
1.69
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.299
0.299
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.279
0.279
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
38.68
38.68
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
37.45
37.45

Fielding Stats for Neil Allen and Ken Forsch

Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
11
11
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
16
16
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
434
3.95
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
521
2.21
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
59
0.54
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
241
1.02
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
2965
27
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6379
27
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
988.1
9
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2126.1
9
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
75
0.68
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
134
0.57
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
120
1.09
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
305
1.29
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
0.04
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
26
0.11
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
199
1.81
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
465
1.97
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
195
1.78
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
439
1.86
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
97.99
97.99
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
94.41
94.41
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.449
0.449
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.843
0.843
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
13.59
13.59
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
46.26
46.26
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
0.04
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
24
0.1
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Neil Allen and Ken Forsch

Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
11
11
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
16
16
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
434
2018.6
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
521
713.7
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
129
600
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
438
600
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
115
534.88
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
383
524.66
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.13
0.13
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.136
0.136
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.399
0.399
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.397
0.397
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
15
69.77
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
52
71.23
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
11
51.16
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
46
63.01
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
9.3
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
6
8.22
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2
9.3
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
4
18.6
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
6
8.22
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.267
0.267
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.115
0.115
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
3.34
15.53
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
9.58
13.13
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
21
97.67
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
58
79.45
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
18
83.72
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
68
93.15
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.153
0.153
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.17
0.17
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.183
0.183
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.151
0.151
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.335
0.335
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.322
0.322
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.052
0.052
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.016
0.016
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.114
0.114
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.115
0.115
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.24
0.24
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.225
0.225
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.234
0.234
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.236
0.236
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
3
13.95
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
16
21.92
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
7
32.56
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
17
23.29
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
10
46.51
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
33
45.21
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
0.83
3.88
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
2.06
2.82
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
3
13.95
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
16
21.92
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
51
237.21
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PAverified
163
223.29
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
2.53
2.53
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
2.69
2.69
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.06
0.06
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.1
0.1
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
11
51.16
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
39
53.42
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Neil Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
3
4.11
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1.37
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1.37
Neil Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
100
100