Lloyd Allen vs. Ken Forsch — Career Comparison

Lloyd Allen
Baby BoomersCaliforniaThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaCalifornia AngelsAmerican LeagueRelief Pitcher
Ken Forsch
Baby BoomersCaliforniaThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaHouston AstrosAmerican LeagueStarting PitcherAll-Star

Ken Forsch built a career as a starting pitcher and Lloyd Allen as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Ken Forsch led in walk avoidance (BB%+ 128 vs 76), run prevention (ERA+ 107 vs 91), and skill-based run prevention (DICE+ 97 vs 95). Lloyd Allen held the edge in home run suppression (HR9+ 141 vs 92). Keeping the role difference in mind, the edge still goes to Ken Forsch.

Pitching Stats for Lloyd Allen and Ken Forsch

Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
7
7
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
16
16
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
159
4.81
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
521
2.2
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
19
0.58
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
241
1.02
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
8
0.24
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
114
0.48
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
25
0.76
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
113
0.48
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
24.24
24.24
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
50.22
50.22
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
11.95
11.95
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
46.26
46.26
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
70
0.3
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
18
0.08
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
22
0.67
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
51
0.22
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
155
4.69
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
796
3.37
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.69
4.69
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.37
3.37
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.71
4.71
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.33
3.33
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.61
4.61
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.86
3.86
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.258
0.258
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.257
0.257
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
892
27
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6382
27
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
297.1
9
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2127.1
9
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
291
8.81
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2071
8.76
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
8.81
8.81
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
8.76
8.76
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
19
0.58
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
155
0.66
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.58
0.58
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.66
0.66
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.12
0.12
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.3
0.3
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
196
5.93
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
586
2.48
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
18
0.54
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
68
0.29
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.93
5.93
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.48
2.48
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
194
5.87
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
1047
4.43
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5.87
5.87
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.43
4.43
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.22
1.22
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.01
2.01
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.312
1.312
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.768
0.768
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
27
0.82
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
43
0.18
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
11
0.33
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
47
0.2
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2
0.06
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
7
0.03
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1366
41.35
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8852
37.45
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
75
2.27
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
177
0.75
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
183
5.54
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
881
3.73
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.54
5.54
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.73
3.73
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
18
0.54
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
90
0.38
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
12
0.36
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
56
0.24
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
8
0.24
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
162
0.69
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.638
1.638
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.249
1.249
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1129
34.17
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8073
34.15
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.15
1.15
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.69
1.69
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.297
0.297
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.279
0.279
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
41.35
41.35
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
37.45
37.45

Fielding Stats for Lloyd Allen and Ken Forsch

Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
7
7
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
16
16
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
159
4.82
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
521
2.21
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
19
0.58
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
241
1.02
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
891
27
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6379
27
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
297
9
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2126.1
9
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
15
0.45
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
134
0.57
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
46
1.39
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
305
1.29
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3
0.09
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
26
0.11
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
64
1.94
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
465
1.97
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
61
1.85
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
439
1.86
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
95.31
95.31
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
94.41
94.41
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.384
0.384
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.843
0.843
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
11.95
11.95
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
46.26
46.26
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
0.15
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
24
0.1
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Lloyd Allen and Ken Forsch

Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
7
7
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
16
16
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
159
2218.6
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
521
713.7
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
43
600
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
438
600
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
40
558.14
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
383
524.66
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.2
0.2
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.136
0.136
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.535
0.535
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.397
0.397
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
8
111.63
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
52
71.23
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
6
83.72
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
46
63.01
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
13.95
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
6
8.22
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
13.95
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
27.91
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
6
8.22
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.25
0.25
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.115
0.115
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.025
0.025
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.125
0.125
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2.49
34.72
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
9.58
13.13
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
12
167.44
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
58
79.45
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
8
111.63
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
68
93.15
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.2
0.2
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.17
0.17
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.3
0.3
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.151
0.151
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.5
0.5
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.322
0.322
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.1
0.1
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.016
0.016
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.165
0.165
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.115
0.115
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.364
0.364
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.225
0.225
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.28
0.28
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0.236
0.236
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
27.91
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
16
21.92
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
1
13.95
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
17
23.29
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
2
27.91
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
33
45.21
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1.97
27.53
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
2.06
2.82
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
16
21.92
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
14
195.35
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
163
223.29
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3.07
3.07
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
2.69
2.69
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.1
0.1
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
3
41.86
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
39
53.42
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Lloyd Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
1
13.95
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PAverified
3
4.11
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1.37
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
1.37
Lloyd Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
Ken Forsch
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
100
100