Bob Allen vs. Addie Joss — Career Comparison

Bob Allen
Silent GenerationTexasThrows LeftBats LeftNorth AmericaCleveland GuardiansAmerican LeagueRelief Pitcher
Addie Joss
Pre-GenerationalWisconsinThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaCleveland GuardiansAmerican LeagueHall of FameStarting Pitcher

Addie Joss built a career as a starting pitcher and Bob Allen as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Addie Joss posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 1.89 and WHIP 0.968 compared to 4.11 and 1.631 for Bob Allen. By the career numbers, Addie Joss had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Bob Allen and Addie Joss

Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
5
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
9
9
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
204
6.7
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
286
1.11
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
260
1.01
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
7
0.23
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
160
0.62
Bob Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
12
0.39
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
97
0.38
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
36.84
36.84
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
62.26
62.26
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
90.91
90.91
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
234
0.91
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
45
0.17
Bob Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
19
0.62
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
0.02
Bob Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
125
4.11
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
488
1.89
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.11
4.11
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.89
1.89
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.42
4.42
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.84
1.84
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.14
4.14
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.86
2.86
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.263
0.263
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.223
0.223
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
822
27
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6981
27
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
274
9
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2327
9
Bob Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
288
9.46
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1888
7.3
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
9.46
9.46
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7.3
7.3
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
23
0.76
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
19
0.07
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.76
0.76
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.07
0.07
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.11
0.11
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.07
0.07
Bob Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
132
4.34
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
364
1.41
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
27
0.89
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0
0
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.34
4.34
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.41
1.41
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
199
6.54
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
920
3.56
Bob Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
6.54
6.54
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.56
3.56
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.98
0.98
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.22
3.22
Bob Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.208
1.208
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.552
0.552
Bob Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
18
0.59
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
28
0.11
Bob Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
5
0.16
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
58
0.22
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
2
0.07
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1
0
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1232
40.47
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8891
34.39
Bob Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
84
2.76
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
22
0.09
Bob Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
152
4.99
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
730
2.82
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.99
4.99
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.82
2.82
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.533
1.533
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.968
0.968
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1095
35.97
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8469
32.76
Bob Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.75
0.75
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.55
2.55
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.304
0.304
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.248
0.248
Bob Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
40.47
40.47
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
34.39
34.39

Fielding Stats for Bob Allen and Addie Joss

Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
5
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
9
9
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
204
6.7
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
295
1.12
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
204
0.77
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
822
27
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
7134
27
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
274
9
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2378
9
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
16
0.53
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
185
0.7
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
51
1.68
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
848
3.21
Bob Allen
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
0.13
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
36
0.14
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
71
2.33
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1069
4.05
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
67
2.2
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1033
3.91
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
94.37
94.37
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
96.63
96.63
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.328
0.328
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.502
3.502
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
69.15
69.15
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
4
0.13
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
24
0.09
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bob Allen
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Bob Allen and Addie Joss

Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
5
5
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
9
9
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
204
3600
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
296
194.95
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
34
600
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
911
600
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
31
547.06
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
817
538.09
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.129
0.129
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.144
0.144
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.368
0.368
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.441
0.441
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
4
70.59
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
118
77.72
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
3
52.94
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
90
59.28
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
1
17.65
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
21
13.83
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
6
3.95
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
0.66
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
1
17.65
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
28
18.44
Bob Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.25
0.25
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0.237
0.237
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.001
0.001
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.009
0.009
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.8
14.18
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
34.95
23.02
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
5
88.24
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
154
101.43
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
5
88.24
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
173
113.94
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.156
0.156
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.198
0.198
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.161
0.161
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.189
0.189
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.318
0.318
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.387
0.387
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.032
0.032
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.044
0.044
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.111
0.111
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.136
0.136
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.222
0.222
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.313
0.313
Bob Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.267
0.267
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0.225
0.225
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
46
30.3
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
51
33.59
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
96
63.23
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
-0.01
-0.25
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
23.55
15.51
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
0.66
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
1
17.65
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
54
35.57
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Allen
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
16
282.35
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PAverified
297
195.61
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
2.13
2.13
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
3.07
3.07
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0.06
0.06
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.18
0.18
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PAverified
2
35.29
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
39
25.69
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
10
6.59
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
10
6.59
Bob Allen
Career
Per 600 PA
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
100
100