Bert Abbey vs. Addie Joss — Career Comparison

Bert Abbey
Pre-GenerationalVermontThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaBrooklyn DodgersNational LeagueRelief Pitcher
Addie Joss
Pre-GenerationalWisconsinThrows RightBats RightNorth AmericaCleveland GuardiansAmerican LeagueHall of FameStarting Pitcher

Addie Joss built a career as a starting pitcher and Bert Abbey as a reliever — different jobs with different demands — but on the metrics that apply to both, a comparison is still worth making. Addie Joss posted stronger surface numbers — ERA 1.89 and WHIP 0.968 compared to 4.52 and 1.546 for Bert Abbey. By the career numbers, Addie Joss had the better of this cross-role comparison — though era context would sharpen the verdict.

Pitching Stats for Bert Abbey and Addie Joss

Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
5
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
9
9
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
79
1.25
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
286
1.11
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
65
1.03
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
260
1.01
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
22
0.35
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
160
0.62
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
40
0.63
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
97
0.38
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
35.48
35.48
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
62.26
62.26
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
82.28
82.28
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
90.91
90.91
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
52
0.82
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
234
0.91
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
45
0.17
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0.02
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
5
0.02
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
285
4.52
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
488
1.89
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.52
4.52
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.89
1.89
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
4.64
4.64
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.84
1.84
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
4
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.86
2.86
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.292
0.292
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.223
0.223
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
1704
27
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
6981
27
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
568
9
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2327
9
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
686
10.87
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
1888
7.3
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
10.87
10.87
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
7.3
7.3
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
18
0.29
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
19
0.07
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.29
0.29
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.07
0.07
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.23
0.23
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.07
0.07
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
192
3.04
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
364
1.41
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
3.04
3.04
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1.41
1.41
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
161
2.55
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
920
3.56
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.55
2.55
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.56
3.56
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
2.04
2.04
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.22
3.22
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.622
0.622
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.552
0.552
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
18
0.29
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
28
0.11
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
26
0.41
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
58
0.22
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
1
0
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2568
40.69
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8891
34.39
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
14
0.22
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
22
0.09
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
442
7
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
730
2.82
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
7
7
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.82
2.82
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.546
1.546
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.968
0.968
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
2350
37.24
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
8469
32.76
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
5.59
5.59
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
2.55
2.55
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
0.308
0.308
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
0.248
0.248
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
40.69
40.69
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
34.39
34.39

Fielding Stats for Bert Abbey and Addie Joss

Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
5
5
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
9
9
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
79
1.25
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
295
1.12
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
204
0.77
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
1704
27
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
7134
27
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
568
9
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
2378
9
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
17
0.27
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
185
0.7
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
134
2.12
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
848
3.21
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 9 Innings
22
0.35
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Inningsverified
36
0.14
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
173
2.74
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1069
4.05
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
151
2.39
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
1033
3.91
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
87.28
87.28
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
96.63
96.63
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
1.911
1.911
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
3.502
3.502
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
69.15
69.15
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
4
0.06
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 9 Inningsverified
24
0.09
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 9 Innings
0
0

Hitting Stats for Bert Abbey and Addie Joss

Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
5
5
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
9
9
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
79
188.1
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
296
194.95
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
252
600
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
911
600
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
225
535.71
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
817
538.09
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.169
0.169
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0.144
0.144
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.496
0.496
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0.441
0.441
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PAverified
38
90.48
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
118
77.72
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PAverified
32
76.19
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
90
59.28
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
3
7.14
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
21
13.83
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PAverified
3
7.14
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
6
3.95
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
0.66
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
6
14.29
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
28
18.44
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
0.158
0.158
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.237
0.237
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.001
0.001
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.009
0.009
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PAverified
12.95
30.83
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
34.95
23.02
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PAverified
47
111.9
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
154
101.43
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PAverified
59
140.48
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
173
113.94
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.24
0.24
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0.198
0.198
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.209
0.209
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0.189
0.189
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.449
0.449
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0.387
0.387
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
0.04
0.04
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.044
0.044
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.16
0.16
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0.136
0.136
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.38
0.38
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0.313
0.313
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
0.222
0.222
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.225
0.225
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PAverified
21
50
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
46
30.3
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PAverified
17
40.48
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
51
33.59
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PAverified
38
90.48
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
96
63.23
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PAverified
12.76
30.37
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
23.55
15.51
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
1
0.66
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PAverified
21
50
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
54
35.57
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
54
128.57
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
297
195.61
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
4.67
4.67
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
3.07
3.07
Bert Abbey
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
0.39
0.39
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0.18
0.18
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
6
14.29
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PAverified
39
25.69
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PAverified
3
7.14
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
10
6.59
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
0
0
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PAverified
3
7.14
Addie Joss
Careerverified
Per 600 PA
10
6.59
Bert Abbey
Career
Per 600 PA
100
100
Addie Joss
Career
Per 600 PA
100
100